Kasparov's IQ and chess skill

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pdve

I think I read somewhere that the German magazine Der Spiegel subjected Kasparov to a battery of IQ tests conducted professionally and running into several hours.

His IQ came out to be 130!?

On the other hand, his chess skill is very different.

When he was an unrated youngster, due to an oversight on the Russian Chess Federation's part, they sent him by mistake to a GM tournament in place of Victor Korchnoi because he was unavailable. Kasparov took 1st place and got a provisional rating of 2587!!

What is the explanation for this discrepancy?

LoveYouSoMuch

that the correlation between IQ and chess skill is massively overrated.

Kindly_Chass

Isn't an IQ of 130 extremely high?

LoveYouSoMuch

yes, it is.

ZeroSymbolic7188

1 to 24 - Profound mental disability
25 to 39 - Severe mental disability
40 to 54 - Moderate mental disability
55 to 69 - Mild mental disability
70 to 84 - Borderline mental disability
85 to 114 - Average intelligence
115 to 129 - Above average; bright
130 to 144 - Moderately gifted
145 to 159 - Highly gifted
160 to 179 - Exceptionally gifted
180 and up - Profoundly gifted

It has no bearing on chess skill. I have an IQ of 170ish and my chess is very amature.

Kindly_Chass
ZeroSymbolic7188 wrote:

1 to 24 - Profound mental disability
25 to 39 - Severe mental disability
40 to 54 - Moderate mental disability
55 to 69 - Mild mental disability
70 to 84 - Borderline mental disability
85 to 114 - Average intelligence
115 to 129 - Above average; bright
130 to 144 - Moderately gifted
145 to 159 - Highly gifted
160 to 179 - Exceptionally gifted
180 and up - Profoundly gifted

It has no bearing on chess skill. I have an IQ of 170ish and my chess is very amature.

That table seems a bit skewed.  I'm pretty sure that IQ of 70-75 is the average in the United States.

Furthermore, if your IQ is 170ish why can't you spell "amateur"?

kco

Like Einstein, he got very high IQ but he can't even do his own shoe lace.

Kindly_Chass

Oh look, the Australian Dynamic Duo is back.

ZeroSymbolic7188

I have some kind of tick where I type things phonetically sometimes. Especially when typing fast. *shrug*

TKACHS

Playing on a  "3 by 3 (by 3)" grid from tic-tac-toe to Rubik cube, then we'd all look like a genius!

ChiseledChessy

Einstein could not play chess like Lasker and even said its a waste of intellect but he wasnt a pure chess player and maybe he sucked. But even if einstein did apply himself to chess he may not have even be that good so theres gotta be other things asides intellect to determine potential, memory id guess is a major one i dont know if that counts as intellect but it definetly compliments intelligence

pdve

You have an IQ of 170'ish'. Has been professionally tested?

pdve

no Einstein's IQ was really high(160) but nowhere close to what he achieved, i.e. multiple world changing contributions to theoretical and applied physics. And he did so at a young age.

On the other hand, I know of a Norwegian medical student with an IQ of 165 who has done nothing notable yet.

So obviously IQ measures something other than intelligence/intellectual capacity.

Dragonbice

There are several different scale systems for measuring IQ. Three of them are supposed to be recognized and used more than the others - all though that could also be out of practicality. I've taken three IQ-tests in my life; I don't know what scale systems they used but I had very different results each time. I'm Swedish, and my best result was with an English test that (among other things) included sentence structuring and the testing of one's understanding of various expressions, sayings etc. I mean, you would have thought that I would score higher on a Swedish test.

Your result is also very dependant on circumstances like, who designed the test, when it was designed or, simply, if you're feeling alert or indolent, what mood you're in etc.

My highest and lowest results were about 30 points apart - and that's from only three tests.

If I'm not mistaken, though, I think that 100 is considered to be average within all systems.

LoveYouSoMuch

some people are also notoriously lazy, regardless of iq. :p

pdve

the gre score conversion to IQ gives me an IQ of 142 but I've never scored that high on a real IQ test.

pdve

i think they are taking percentiles of GRE and equating with percentiles of IQ.

If they did the same things with chess, Kasparov's iq might be anywhere between 10000000 and 1000000000000

Dragonbice
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666AAA666 wrote:

lol yes, there is such buzz for the american citizens, but could this be truth? Is USA a country of silly people?

Some countries lead the world in pretty much everything. Others are bankrupt socialist countries that produce nothing and depend on productive nations to bail them out. I'll leave you to work out which are which.

You guys are really intelligent, both of you!

RomyGer

What is the "gre" score ? 

xxdsz
666AAA666 wrote:

What do u mean? I only made a question, how can this make me inteligent or not inteligent?

"inteligent"?