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wayne_thomas

If the King's Indian has been refuted, someone should tell Carlsen.



agisdon

Johnson2233 i felt the same as you! In fact that is why I stopped playing the KID for a while

SIowMove
dimis283 wrote:

My point of view is that black at the KID, must be well prepared knowing theory and understanding the middlegame

It's the same for white, though. You can't just play the white pieces against a prepared KID player without knowing what you're doing. If you do, black'll crush you in many different ways.

ThrillerFan
Optimissed wrote:

"King indian defense help"

We spell it "defence". Was that a help?

 

Nobody gives two hoots how the Brits and British Owned Colonies, like Australia, spell words.

 

The OP is from Canada.  He is speaking American English.  In America, it's Defense!  Just like how many places where you use an S, we use a Z.  Learn culture before you knock other people's English.

 

American English:  Color, Organization, Paralyze, Catalog, Dialog

British English:  Colour, Organisation, Paralyse, Catalogue, Dialogue

 

 

And to answer your question you clown, no it doesn't help the author of the original post because what he asked for wasn't a spelling test grade!

 

 

As a King's Indian player myself, one thing to realize is the nature of the opening.  There are many times that Black really doesn't care about the Queenside.  What matters most is his attack on the Kingside, and DO NOT EVER trade off that Light-Squared Bishop unless you are sacrificing it to rip White Open.  Like a sacrifice for a pawn on g4 or h3.  There are lines where White plays an early Nb5, and answers ...a6 with Na7 (assuming his Bishop is on e3 or f2), and Black will gladly give up the Rook for the Knight via Rxa7 to dislocate the Bishop and maintain his prized piece, the Light-Squared Bishop.

 

So if you are a material counter, the King's Indian isn't for you.  In the King's Indian main line Classical, Mar Del Plata variation, the Light-Squared Bishop for Black is worth 9 points, the Rook on a8 is barely worth a point!

Mike_Aronchuk

I am giving an introduction to 'my' Smyslov Attack.I am also posting 2 of my games in chess.com .

Mike_Aronchuk

 

Mike_Aronchuk

 

Mike_Aronchuk

Sorry,to show you only one!

Mike_Aronchuk

What would you do against this?

wayne_thomas

6...h6 chasing the bishop away?

Optimissed
pfren wrote:

The main disadvantage of the KID is that the opening is incedibly versatile and complex: You have to master many important pawn structures to play it properly. Plus, in a few very sharp lines you must be booked up to the last detail to avoid disaster. But the opening is 100% sound, actually I think it is just about the only choice in modern correspondence games if Black is playing for a win (mainly because engines tend to misevaluate several key positions).>>>

I only play it as white and I only play the Classical Variation. A few people have tried to encourage me to play other variations but I like the complexity of the positions that arise from the Classical. However, I'm aware that a really competent player of black, who understands the value of manoeuvring, is probably going to outplay me unless I'm on particularly good form. These days I find it best to open the c-file or, failing that, the b-file, and swap both pairs of rooks off if I can. Obviously also white wants to somehow swap black's strongest minor piece, which is the c8 bishop. Sometimes, this bishop is left at home for over 20 moves Anyhow, I find this passive approach gives me the highest % of wins as white.

 

Mike_Aronchuk

I think that white has enough resources to thwart the KID king side attack,and then proceed on his own side.

poucin

Well, white was lost in this game... for example 29...Qd7 instead of gxh2 and white is near to resign or be mated.

TwoMove

Before getting into details of opening think it would be worthwhile for the OP to have at something like Smirin's 

book  https://www.qualitychess.co.uk/products/1/281/kings_indian_warfare_by_ilya_smirin/ .  The first chapter in particular, "Always dangerous" shows the right attitude for playing this opening.