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# King is worth 12 points according to chess.com shop?!?!?!

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I found this on Chesscom.shop and I thought it was kind of funny since the general consensus is that kings are priceless and have no point value but chess.com is saying it is worth 12 here on this clock they sell. Obviously they don't actually think it is worth 12 but it is a nice easter egg.

Or 0, if it is 24-hour time.

rubik28917 wrote:

Or 0, if it is 24-hour time.

It would be 12 since there are only 12 numbers/symbols on this clock which would represent a 12-hour clock.

Bro is shopping for chess merch 😂

GM_Katsu wrote:

I thought it was kind of funny since the general consensus is that kings are priceless

What time is "12 am".... It is ZERO.

You're welcome.

Well midnight and 12 on the clock is a strange time. You have 9 pm, 10 pm 11 pm and then the next is 12 AM, what's with that? Also, it's the start of the next cycle, and the next number is 1, so shouldn't it be 0? So this strangeness gives a little justification for the king being there, and besides what's the alternative - the other pieces again and leave the king out altogether? You can see why they did it.

Uhohspaghettio1 wrote:

Well midnight and 12 on the clock is a strange time. You have 9 pm, 10 pm 11 pm and then the next is 12 AM, what's with that? Also, it's the start of the next cycle, and the next number is 1, so shouldn't it be 0? So this strangeness gives a little justification for the king being there, and besides what's the alternative - the other pieces again and leave the king out altogether? You can see why they did it.

The rationale I came up with for midnight being 12 AM is that the entire hour is in the AM. The programmer/mathematician/nerd in me wants it to be 0 AM, but I get that most people can't cope with that. In the movie-military it is 00:00, "zero hundred hours". I have no idea what the actual military calls it.

rubik28917 wrote:

Or 0, if it is 24-hour time.

Shoot, I didn't even notice your post before I responded. Apologies! But yes, it makes perfect sense, just like how a child is not born one year old. A day is not born one hour old either.

That's a cool clock. I'd like to take this opportunity to share a personal opinion about the real value of the king. To me it's worth 39 points because the whole rest of your army is there to protect the king & they're worth 39 points in total when the game begins.

Attractive and cleverly-designed clock. Not surprising it is sold out.

RideZen2 wrote:

That's a cool clock. I'd like to take this opportunity to share a personal opinion about the real value of the king. To me it's worth 39 points because the whole rest of your army is there to protect the king & they're worth 39 points in total when the game begins.

Here's a reated question I've wondered about.

Imagine you had a capturable King, which I'll call a Prince. The Prince can do anything a King can do, except it can be captured just like any other piece; no checks on the Prince and if you checkmate him, take him and the game goes on.

So, how much would a Prince be worth? He's more maneuverable than a pawn. He's slower than all the non-pawns. He can get into places no one else can, except a Queen. Maybe he's worth 2 or 3.

@rubik28917 That piece has already been invented and is called a mann, it has a value of 4 based on its maneuverability: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mann_(chess)

Man, I wish they sold these in Ukraine :.(

xjcl wrote:

@rubik28917 That piece has already been invented and is called a mann, it has a value of 4 based on its maneuverability: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mann_(chess)

Nice!

Disappointing: