Caedrel wrote:
...when I thought Carissa was treating his posts just as thoughtfully and respectfully as any other.
lol?
Life of a Female Chess Player Pt. III: How it all Started
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Caedrel wrote:
While chess may be "just a board game", I can easily see how it fits into the same mold as the STEM subjects i.e. science, technology, engineering and mathematics: been seen as something boys are better at, girls are steered away or discouraged from choosing subjects in those field, and those who do continue to encounter this sort of discrimination.
ChessOath's posts reminds me of a white middle aged man trying to tell a black person that something that the latter experienced wasn't really racism or wasn't a big deal, and that they should "move on"; even more so in the way he then mounts quite a nasty attack out of nowhere, really, when I thought Carissa was treating his posts just as thoughtfully and respectfully as any other.
Thanks for sharing - I guess it's a bit different posting this in the General forums than in your blog, eh?
Yeah, it gets more responses, but also a lot of negative feedback. But hey, it is the internet.
HashtagFlawless wrote:
Neverfearthedark wrote:
HashtagFlawless wrote:
Youre such a good writer, I wish I could write like u The fact that u have the courage to write about these experiences shows you're a very strong person and I really admire that! I also feel very lucky that I haven't been subject to that kind of mistreatment as a fellow female chess player (probably coz I'm not as pretty as u), although I probably will be sometime in my life as a chess player.
Thank you so much! I appreciate the compliment. I'm sure you could be a great writer too and I'm also certain that your experiences as a chess player would be fascinating to read about. Also, beauty is entirely subjective and I think you're lovely. I hope you start sharing your own experiences too.
Thank you so much! I (barely) tried to start a blog but I was too lazy, lol
You can do it. 
Going back to Carissa's comment that football is king in Texas - If you doubt it, read the 1990 nonfiction book Friday Night Lights, which became the basis for a movie and a TV series.
Oh... so this is Neverfearthedarks occupation when ignoring 'important' topics that she starts, elsewhere, and then abandons. But now I understand the far more important duty to tell the world of the suffering and struggle of the Oppressed You. And with such style, such heartfelt heroine-esque verve: at times I almost felt Barberra Cartland was still amongst us...
Oh, what a tale of the brave, misunderstood, "beautiful and tragic" chess ingenue, who, discovering the magic of The Board, must, of course, then suffer the evil chessmen's disdain. But with the unassuming, kindly, granpa-esque-mentor's help, the learning, the flourishing and the becoming, empowers the overcoming of the wicked hetero/misoogyno/evilo chessmen's cleavage-ogling-oppression! With no thought of the cliche; no fear of bathos; no doubt about personal humility, this galwoman -with her serious spectacles, her thrusting chin, and that kick-ass grit- she sure shows 'em!
Oh Neverfearthedark you are an inspiration to all! Even to us: the long suffering, differently-specied chess players, lost here in the shadows.
Oh... lol! LOL !!
stuzzicadenti wrote:
timbeau wrote:
can you be any more misogynistic?
Trolls aside, the OP has been by far the most sexist person on this thread.
stuzzicadenti wrote:
why is it considered sexist for a girl to speak her mind?
the fact that you would say that just shows how sexist YOU are.
Your intelligence is startling. How do you get through the day?
stuzzicadenti wrote:
timbeau wrote:
can you be any more misogynistic?
I am at a loss to understand your unwarranted damnation of me...
Nowhere in my ,admittedly, sarcastic (*yes:the lowest form of wit), smartarsey, cleverclogsy, unfriendly 'dig' at Neverfearthedark's literary effort, did I denigrate, devalue, dismiss, despise, deride, demean, degrade, disabuse or in any other way dasterdly treat the writer on the basis of her sex. ( I'll use here that accurate and adequate word, 'sex' - instead of 'gender', a linguistic term until it was appropriated in the '80's)
stuzzicadenti's notion that my response was "misogynistic" must surely be a misunderstanding on her part. If not, if she considers my (lame) mockery of a womans writing to be base misogyny, then I must assume that she simply doesn't understand the meaning of that word. However, if she thinks that I'm attacking a woman "just for speaking her mind", I have to question just what does stuzzicadent understand about almost anything...
Without the attempt at sarcasm then, (maybe that was the problem?), this is what I feel about Neverfearthedark's opening post, blog, personal memoir, morality-tale, short-story, whatever... I found it to be a self obsessed, derivative, cliche-ridden, disingenuous, manipulative, obvious, hackneked, ham-fisted, trite, self-serving and tedious example of self glorification. The 'ethically evil cospiracy' underpinning the narrator's battle is: the male oppression of women (!!) - in this case in the world of Chess. I realize that there is little that is new in this World, but a tale of one "ass-kicking" woman's rejection and her subsequent overcoming of male oppression, is a story for such histrionic retelling; and, surprisingly, not worth the histrionics of it here - in the Forums of chess.com!
Is that undertstandable to you, stuzzicadenti ? !
Even if you make a few points in that post timbeau...
your use of language is needlessly provocative. take the description "a$$-kissing women"
unnecessary, shocking, and filled with innuendo.
I think its entirely possible that the OP and her story is real. but even if it isn't there's no reason to be hatin' on it.
we have 1,000 "women takes on world" posts a year on chess.com. do you intend to hate on all of them?? and what if she is absolutely real- you become Jerk#1.
IOW, save the big rebuke to places where the pic is a clear phony, and her (his) antics make it clear she (he) is only interested in trolling.
He's been trolled by stuzzi, anyway.
he has?
"trolled"
"I do not think that word means what you think it means" ha! sorry pulp.
given your Avatar I just HAD to say that. I love that movie....
He, while "unconceivable" was a sort of Vizzini's fetish I suppose, "trolling" could have many different meanings too. But stuzzi says this, says that, he could use himself whatever timbeau said, in another thread, even this one later...
Ma_Diagonal wrote:
He's mentally ill, don't listen to him.
Yes, because it's not at all ambiguous who you're talking to or about...
timbeau wrote:
See, even the idiot who can't speak English (despite what appears to be an enormous vocabulary), types in size 1 font and thinks that every comment made is directed at him, can see that the OP is simply a delusional attention seeker.
DavidForthoffer wrote:
Man: "Are you a lesbian?"
Woman: "No. Are you gay?"
One naturally thinks of such retorts too late!
That is a great one to remember! Per default, I would still stick with 'None of your damn business' (and yes, try to beat him - even if it takes years! Way to go, Neverfear!).
thegreat_patzer wrote:
I think its entirely possible that the OP and her story is real. but even if it isn't there's no reason to be hatin' on it.
we have 1,000 "women takes on world" posts a year on chess.com. do you intend to hate on all of them?? and what if she is absolutely real- you become Jerk#1.
I know that his posts are almost completely unreadable, but I don't believe he ever stated or implied in any way that he believed the OP to making this up.
It's the fact that it is clearly so real and yet so pathetic in just about every way that should be annoying people far more than appears to be the case. She is a sexist, delusional attention w**** that thinks the world revolves around her. Nothing that shes said demonstrates any real hardship or gender related specific treatment.
So a kid made a stupid comment... That's what happens in life. It wasn't bad and if she wasn't a girl it would have probably just been replaced by another equally pathetic stupid comment. It's nothing that has been blown wildy out of proportion. Oh and the delusions about the librarian... Don't get me started again.
Great post, Neverfear! Can't believe that even here there are idiots peeing in your punchbowl - take them down if you feel like it, but we should all feel free to ignore them, too.
One lesson to take home from your story - it is super important to have female role models. This does not just apply just chess.
thegreat_patzer wrote:
Even if you make a few points in that post timbeau...
your use of language is needlessly provocative. take the description "a$$-kissing women"
unnecessary, shocking, and filled with innuendo.
I think its entirely possible that the OP and her story is real. but even if it isn't there's no reason to be hatin' on it.
we have 1,000 "women takes on world" posts a year on chess.com. do you intend to hate on all of them?? and what if she is absolutely real- you become Jerk#1.
IOW, save the big rebuke to places where the pic is a clear phony, and her (his) antics make it clear she (he) is only interested in trolling.
actually, The great _patser , that was "ass-kicking", not your "...kissing" - the inverted commas denote that I was quoting Neverfearthedark. What a classic lapsis linguae ! Your 'slip of the tongue' ('...pen'?) - and the subsequent language- is ... revealing!
Why the assumption that i was filled with 'hate'. _ Okay, that may seem a touch disenguous but I was sarcastic, over the top about the style. Yes I bagged the content of Neverfearthedark's melodramatic piece but does that necessarily mean that I'm "hatin on it".( a dumb bit of jargon itself ). And whether or not we have a thousand posts from women with something to say, my comments are confined to THIS post. Going me on the garbage assumption that I'll "hate on it" to those supposed posts is stupid, completely incorrect and a crappy charge. And why can you doubt the truth of Neverfearthedark's story -call her a liar in fact- but that's okay because you don't apperently hate her. Defame, doubt, libel her, but just ''don't hate on it''!
Just be nice about it, when you label her a liar..
Actually, bugger this for a laugh!
Here I am, feeling that i have to defend myself and justfy my comments, when the people, above, have labeled me delusional; pathetic; mentally ill; a jerk#1; stupid; an attention seeker; a bloody troll; and an unreadable idiot consumed with hate.
A couple of those people seem to approve that somebody else is, apparently, actively "trolling" me. (Whatever the hell that entails!) Another stranger, after discussing me with a friend, feels justified to diagnose me as having some sort of fetishistic pathology.
ChessOath - someone I've shared a few sentences, on a couple of occasions, on another thread, seems to feel that because of the style of my post, he can get stuck into me. He damns the size of my font, thinks I'm paranoid, and calls me 'an idiot who who writes unreadable posts...who considers me both pathetic and stupid... and who can't even write English... Yet at the same time, he plainly thinks Neverfearthedark invented the details of her story; that she is obviously dishonest, a sexist, and is "delusional...and complaining about nothing... and thinks the world revolves around her..." Not only that, he writes - "Nothing that shes said demonstrates any real hardship or gender related specific treatment." [ I'd bet I was writing English, matey, when you were still shittin' yellow! ]
And yet I'm the wicked one!
Why is the style of my comment so problematic! Are people threatened by the nature of my words ? Didn't I make it clear that I was being sarcastic. Or should I be nicer when using sarcasm, and not so... excessive? Perhaps the nature of any excess, is a response to the excess of Neverfearthedark ...
While chess may be "just a board game", I can easily see how it fits into the same mold as the STEM subjects i.e. science, technology, engineering and mathematics: been seen as something boys are better at, girls are steered away or discouraged from choosing subjects in those field, and those who do continue to encounter this sort of discrimination.
ChessOath's posts reminds me of a white middle aged man trying to tell a black person that something that the latter experienced wasn't really racism or wasn't a big deal, and that they should "move on"; even more so in the way he then mounts quite a nasty attack out of nowhere, really, when I thought Carissa was treating his posts just as thoughtfully and respectfully as any other.
Thanks for sharing - I guess it's a bit different posting this in the General forums than in your blog, eh?