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hi guise As I am a beginner that is why I want to know how to play London system and want you guise to post your games in which u have played London system or just recommend me a good book on London system recommending a site will also help so pls pls pls help me guise
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What beginner? Your way past a beginners level. Give yourself some credit.

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You should play something good instead and later drift toward gimmick openings.

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i HATE this opening...a solid 0 against it

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If you lose to this stuff, it just means you haven't prepared.

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MegasAlexandros86 wrote:
masterfowler wrote:

i HATE this opening...a solid 0 against it

Because you don't understand it, for example you know when to SACRIFICE the h pawn and instead of castle to play Kf1? or the 2 pawns sacrifice against the dutch? of course not, you are 1300 and you don't understand anything. Read the book "Lakdawa - London system" and see how aggressive this opening can be, you even have a PIECE SACRIFICE in a line against the kings indian.

The kings gambit is agressive but doesn't mean it's good.The problem with the london system if black plays the mainline and white plays the main line white will have a bad version of the exchange variation of the caro kann.

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MegasAlexandros86 wrote:

masterfowler wrote:

i HATE this opening...a solid 0 against it

Because you don't understand it, for example you know when to SACRIFICE the h pawn and instead of castle to play Kf1? or the 2 pawns sacrifice against the dutch? of course not, you are 1300 and you don't understand anything. Read the book "Lakdawa - London system" and see how aggressive this opening can be, you even have a PIECE SACRIFICE in a line against the kings indian.

noted thanx☺ any recommendations on playing against the colle system?

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i hate it forever now,

 

this weekend i was playing in the florida scholasstic champs and i needed a win in the last round to place... (i should mention so did my opponent)

 

what did he play? the london system!...

 

After about 30 minutes of trading we were in a drawn rook ending and after 1 hour we drew and i placed 14 th=(

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😂😂😂 glad to see im not the only hater

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thanks for opinions I have decided to play kings Indian instead of London syestem

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thanks for opinions I have decided to play kings Indian instead of London syestem

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cyberwarior wrote:

thanks for opinions I have decided to play kings Indian instead of London syestem

Your better off. The London System is so boring. Besides, the London System will prevent to from learning a lot of really cool openings that are a lot of fun to play. 

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catalan ftw

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The KIA is discussed in Winning Chess Openings by GM Yasser Seirawan.
https://web.archive.org/web/20140627132508/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen173.pdf
For more on the KIA, one could try The King's Indian Attack: Move by Move by Grandmaster Neil McDonald. Perhaps, it would be of interest to look at The Fianchetto Solution by Emmanuel Neiman and Samy Shoker.
https://www.newinchess.com/Shop/Images/Pdfs/9029.pdf

"... For players with very limited experience, I recommend using openings in which the play can be clarified at an early stage, often with a degree of simplification. To accomplish this safely will take a little study, because you will have to get used to playing wiith open lines for both sides' pieces, but you can't eliminate risk entirely in the opening anyway. ... teachers all over the world suggest that inexperienced players begin with 1 e4. ... You will undoubtedly see the reply 1 ... e5 most often when playing at or near a beginner's level, ... After 2 Nf3, 2 ... Nc6 will occur in the bulk of your games. ... I recommend taking up the classical and instructive move 3 Bc4 at an early stage. Then, against 3 ... Bc5, it's thematic to try to establish the ideal centre by 4 c3 and 5 d4; after that, things can get complicated enough that you need to take a look at some theory and learn the basics; ... Of course, you can also play 1 d4 ... A solid and more-or-less universal set-up is 2 Nf3 and 3 Bf4, followed in most cases by 4 e3, 5 Be2 and 6 0-0. I'd rather see my students fight their way through open positions instead; however, if you're not getting out of the opening alive after 1 e4, this method of playing 1 d4 deserves consideration. ... a commonly suggested 'easy' repertoire for White with 1 Nf3 and the King's indian Attack ... doesn't lead to an open game or one with a clear plan for White. Furthermore, it encourages mechanical play. Similarly, teachers sometimes recommend the Colle System ..., which can also be played too automatically, and usually doesn't lead to an open position. For true beginners, the King's Indian Attack and Colle System have the benefit of offering a safe position that nearly guarantees passage to some kind of playable middlegame; they may be a reasonable alternative if other openings are too intimidating. But having gained even a small amount of experience, you really should switch to more open and less automatic play. ..." - IM John Watson in a section of his 2010 book, Mastering the Chess Openings, Volume 4

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white might've been able to play g4 after e5 but the computer mostly displayed either triple zeros or a microscopic advantage for white(+0.3 or 0.12) i believe the end position is a draw

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i was black

 

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i play the b3 variation of the semi slav which has a very similar idea, bb2 nbd2 bd3 qc2, plop a knight on e5 play f4 with a very strong attack in the making

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Megas your even more boring than the London System.