London system scrubs

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Clark_757
I don't mind playing against players who depend on their set position to get by (London players) it just kills me how they think they're being strategical the whole game
Clark_757
A lot of London players lack skill so I don't mind playing these folks they crumble in the end game
DrSpudnik

Jacob Aagaard calls the London: "The Old Man's Bad Habit. Not dangerous and not very interesting."

from Meeting 1d4

Merovwig

Chess is not all about the opening. And if it was just that, you would not be here moaning about bad London players who put you off book and stole your victory.

Clark_757
Yup you caught me
Justs99171

It's stunning how stupid people are. If you play chess in 2016, you're going to have to learn a lot of openings and a lot of variations. So relying on some opening to cut this down to a minimum? Objectively makes you an inferior player. Now what do these London System players do? Naturally, talk trash and insult people to cover up for their deficiencies and inadequacies as theoreticians.

Go check any statistical database and you will see that people win less often when playing the London System, yet the way you guys tell it you're just beaing all the black players because you're so strategically superior blah blah blah boooshat!

Clark_757
For real, haha. How many grandmasters you know will get respect if they played the London every time they get white ? People will be all over that saying he/she is weak in other areas
Clark_757
And trust me no grandmaster achieved their title by playing just the London
FMJackMate

I love to crush London System players, all I say is Freeeeelo.. I often look at their match history before I make the first move so I know how fast I will crush them depending on their opening. London players take around 2 minutes which is useful knowledge.

Justs99171
FMJackMate wrote:

I love to crush London System players, all I say is Freeeeelo.. I often look at their match history before I make the first move so I know how fast I will crush them depending on their opening. London players take around 2 minutes which is useful knowledge.

Please start a forum for us: How to crush London System scrubs!

We should all band together and beat this opening out of existence.

Oraoradeki

Sure go play the London System but...

  1. Be prepared to play alot of boring games
  2. and get ready to fight for equality with White pieces from move 3.
Clark_757
I bet most these London system scrubs have less win percentage as black just because they can't play the London lol. Probably abandon all matches where they get black
Justs99171
Oraoradeki wrote:

Sure go play the London System but...

Be prepared to play alot of boring games and get ready to fight for equality with White pieces from move 3.

What do you play against the London System?

Merovwig
Justs99171 a écrit :

It's stunning how stupid people are.  [...] Naturally, talk trash and insult people to cover up for their deficiencies and inadequacies as theoreticians.

Please, don't be ridiculous: just look at the topic title before acting as a victim advocate ("London system scrub").

Plus, once again, I'm not a London player.

Of course a lot of weak players chooses to play systems. Still, if you have trouble against it, it just mean your opponent has a better understanding of what is playing on the board.

At "club level", I have seen 1900-2000 players who took the London (or others) to put their opponent off book, to launch an attack on the King/ or go for an endgame, because they were more likely to have the upper end in these fields in "unknown" positions (at least for their opponent).

At Grandmaster level, it's (rarely) a winning choice since you don't get that title by having lack of skills in strategy, defense or endgame. And most of 2000+ players have prepared something against it that kill their joy of playing it.

I did. So you should instead of grumbling because you cannot reach your favorite variation of the semi-slave or the KID. Since you have an opponent, chess is also (mostly) about being able to play stuffs you don't want. It's your job to drive him in something he does not like.

Just like London players do with you.

FMJackMate

Well I could open a thread on how to crush this opening but that would mess up the chess lifes of many London System players and ruin the London System industry. Some London System chess authors might have to sleep under the bridge if I do that. Life is like chess, always think ahead...

Clark_757
Fmjackmate lmao
Clark_757
Oh please, Merovwig, you're obviously a London player or else you wouldn't be here moaning about how London players are bullied and trying to convince us that you're using strategy in a set system
Clark_757
Hahahahaha
Merovwig

Most London players I know like closed centers and wing manoeuvers (the ones they crave for in their mainline).

So I came up with something to blow up the center which is kind of "Nope" to the London:

An idea like another. I think you can also reach it when you are a 1...d5 player.

PS: I'm definitely not a London player, I'm not the one moaning here and that's exactly because you are that I (respectfully) say that your attitude against them is ridiculous. ;)

Clark_757
I just think this whole system crap is played out I don't like the idea. I think chess should be adventurous that's why I go 1. E4 because idk what to expect and I have to react differently so I certainly believe e4 players naturally achieve more accuracy in their play than repetitive London players. Does that make me a better person ? No, but a better chess player ? Most likely