Losing player playing suicide chess

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Mandy711

How would you feel when you're in a winning position, your opponent starts playing suicide chess, giving away his pawns and pieces? I think this is very unsportsmanlike. He could just resign. No need to congratulate the winner but no need to annoy the winner too.

solskytz

Well the guy is obviously pissed with himself on losing... just take the proferred pieces and sail onwards to your win. He could probably have made your life much harder...

No need to sympathize with the loser, but no need to trouble the loser further too. 

BTW a notable example for a player who does this in OTB tournament practice is no other than Vassily Ivanchuk. I also do from time to time..

worldthought_com

Some people have a thing against resigning, but it's not fun to play a doomed position either so they are just trying to hurry things along. Doesn't seem rude.

learningthemoves

When I read your thread title, I thought it was going to be about someone who said they were going to kill themselves if they lost a chess game.

Like Russian roulette or something.

It's a relief to know only pieces were the casualty.

Mandy711
solskytz wrote:

Well the guy is obviously pissed with himself on losing... just take the proferred pieces and sail onwards to your win. He could probably have made your life much harder...

No need to sympathize with the loser, but no need to trouble the loser further too. 

BTW a notable example for a player who does this in OTB tournament practice is no other than Vassily Ivanchuk. I also do from time to time..

I did not know the pros do it. Ivanchuk! I'm no longer his fan.

BigDoggProblem
Mandy711 wrote:

How would you feel when you're in a winning position, your opponent starts playing suicide chess, giving away his pawns and pieces? I think this is very unsportsmanlike. He could just resign. No need to congratulate the winner but no need to annoy the winner too.

Ignore the gifts and go straight for the King. Or take them all and promote all your pawns to N. Toy with your opponent in any way you see fit. Just don't stalemate him. :)

gaereagdag

It's called doing a chucky :)

mkchan2951

depends on what you mean:

suicide or sacrificial assault

solskytz

I second Estragon here. He put it nicely. Don't play with dynamite! The guy genereally means you no harm - it's a feud he has with himself at the moment... it will all pass :-)

Mandy711
Estragon wrote:

Usually it's a sign of frustration at having messed up the game.  I would caution against "toying" with such an opponent, just take the pieces and go for the quickest possible win.  Get it over with.

Yes. You are right.Take the pieces and go for the quickest win. Toying with him might drive him to suicide.

day_widni69

kill him.

Scottrf

They could be playing for stalemate tricks.

Eseles

Why do you think it's unsportsmanlike when someone is giving away his pieces and why are you annoyed instead of happy..? Surprised

Maybe he doesn't want to resign immediately because he has vowed to play at least x number of moves in a game... and decides to resign gradually :D idk lol

MARSAID

They could be playing for stalemate tricks.

day_widni69

They could be playing for stalemate tricks.

Eseles

They could be praying for stalemate.

learningthemoves

+1 ---> stalemate tricks.

day_widni69

Perhaps 

worldthought_com

Yeah I forgot about the stalemate thing. Remember you have to have all your pieces off the board for that to work. And this is an effective tactic more times than you might expect (at least on the <1500 level), and is a hallmark o those who are particularly stubborn about never wanting to give up.

I enjoy sparring against Computer-Medium since it has no awareness of material but is strong tactically, but since it is always down material I have fallen for it's (calculated) stalemate tricks over a dozen times. 

My advice against stalemating is to pick a rook instead of a queen if you can win that way, because under time pressure it's easy to make stalemate mistakes with a queen.

BigDoggProblem
Estragon wrote:

Usually it's a sign of frustration at having messed up the game.  I would caution against "toying" with such an opponent, just take the pieces and go for the quickest possible win.  Get it over with.

Pfft. There's no risk as long as you just make sure he isn't getting stalemated. It's easy, really.