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According to chess .com there is almost no nefarious players here, or your perception is not correct.  You know do not believe your lying eyes.  Maybe true but there are numerous players that make some very suspect moves,oft times just amazing.  May take. Have a nice day Mr. Stahl.

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Yes, there are lots... There are tens of millions of active players.

So even a small percentage of tens of millions will produce a lot.

100,000 accounts were closed last month for fair play violations.

That is a lot.

But not as many as people assert.

Not two out of three.

Not even two out of 50.

You can still get a good game most of the time.

That is what he is trying to explain.

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I am sure there are some but at lower levels, like the op and me, things are just erratic. I can play a brilliant move followed by a blunder - that’s chess!
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According to chess .com there is almost no nefarious players here, or your perception is not correct. 

Glad your eyes are open: Chess Sites like Chess.com (have been for some time) have been using bots as an opportunity cost... it is to prevent the player waiting for games and moving on to another site. The tinfoil hat conspiracy:  They are using the bots to keep people from moving up in ratings, knowing that the average person will loose interest once they have reached their max potential.. so you gain a little and loose it, gain it ... go back down. It's a conspiracy theory for sure, with little evidence to support it. I believe what is happening is players are not as consistent as the bots.. One day you are on point, the other your form is off... against a Bot, who will always play at the level programed ... this probably is the cause of the ebb and flow of elo points or the bottle necking of certain rating levels.

I'd be more concerned with the PCB users here (printed circuit board) They are here in mass.

and each will use the methods described below in various degrees.

either:

A) they are playing with an Opening's Data base tab'ed up.

B) Using a VPN (so Chess.com can not detect an engine running in the back ground.)

C) Or... (my favorite) They are using an old chess engine from the 1990s like a Fidelity Mach III, or Crafty 1.2 ... somehow these people have figured out that whatever A.I. Chess sites like Chess.com are using, can not tell a silicone move form a human move in position that are out of known opening theory, and because these engines are very weak by modern standards ... look human to the A.I. (You know these guys when you come across them, playing without a shred of opening knowledge, yet are extremely tactical.)

There are tens of millions of active players. I'm calling this a lie... I'm reminded of when Musk took over Twitter, he found the Twitter had employed millions of bots to convince people that Twitter was much more popular than it was, and to charge more for adds by sponsors.

If 1/4 of Americans cheat on their taxes, .... Gen Z and Gen Alpha live on the computer... and if the current society is an indicator... there is some form of cheating (A, B, C or all 3 ) going on in mass As someone who has spent many years playing OTB, I perceive Silicone usage is very high... maybe 3rd of all the players... Hence... I do not take internet elo's seriously.

Enjoy the internet game.. Never take this site seriously (or other internet chess sites) join a club, that is where you take OTB games seriously ... and listen to real experts in the game...

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I don’t understand what you’re saying. There are lots of cheaters, maybe 0.1% of players, and chess.com IS aware of that! They close the accounts, and any staff or moderator can admit there are cheaters!
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SacrifycedStoat wrote:
I don’t understand what you’re saying. There are lots of cheaters, maybe 0.1% of players, and chess.com IS aware of that! They close the accounts, and any staff or moderator can admit there are cheaters!

Enjoy the internet game.. Never take this site seriously (or other internet chess sites) join a club, that is where you take OTB games seriously ... and listen to real experts in the game...