Major problem with Anand - Carlsen match

This format is due for a change and the only way to do it is for Anand to lose. If we try to change while he is champion he will cry bloody murder. Anand past history speaks for itself with this draw tactic. Plus i am tired of hearing how good Anand is in games. Yeah he was good at one time but not seeing it all lately. The Anand Era is at hand! Bye bye Jack!

I know a true champion when i see it. Right now that is not Anand he might have been in the past i do not care. Carlsen is young and next generation will be able to relate to him. He will be more receptive to change being young. Being young comes energy and looking for a better future.

If you want change in the format..... Carlsen is not going to care if it is changed at all. Carlsen games are long by nature. Some say boring or he tries to put his opponents to sleep. I can live with Carlsen fans talks about how good he is versus his current opponents fans. Plus with Carlsen winning we start talks about his weakness and strengths vs the previous champions. And then let the talks can Carlsen repeat?

Carlsen winning will bring a breath of fresh air to chess. Maybe not what we want but a start somewhere!

Man if you study Ali tactics when he ran his mouth you can throw your opponents game off with a couple of well timed words. Ali cared less who doubted him. You have to know that.

He was a master of mental attacks. With him the fight was already lost before for his opponent before they entered the ring. If your not focusing on your plan 100% that is a problem. If you doubt your plan that is problem. If you alter your plan without good reason that is a problem. That is what he did to his opponents.

Notice how he predicted when the fight would end. He put a number in their heads. Instead they should have been focusing on punching and counter punching and moving also add in fighting one round at a time. At the same time a created a mind set of fear. Fear is the worse than opponent can ever be in a fight. Out of fear you will do things that you never do if you were thinking clearly.

The action WILL heat up. If not,  we'll just lynch them both.

Now that sounds like a plan. Then next year we should have better games played. And a possible change in format. We need more games we need to see them battle it out ealy on with lead changes in the win column.

What does any of this have to do with sportsmanship? All you've done is describe mind games and other nonsense that detract from the sport. I don't dispute it's effectiveness. All I'm hearing is that the guy did what it took to win even when some methods weren't sportsmanlike  - just like Anand and Carlsen.  

Because between all 3 men there were external factors that for one reason or another required them to resort to unorthadox and questionable methods all for the sake of winning an event. I don't dispute their skill but everything was not kept in the ring with these guys.

Sportsmanship! What sportsmanship in boxing unless on the international level. People pay to see brutality, blood and black eyes.

Carlsen would seem to prefer abolishment of WCC matches in favor of tournaments like the Candidates.

http://www.chessvibes.com/reports/magnus-carlsen-steps-out-of-world-championship-cycle 

While Carlsen's preference for tournaments is well documented, it has nothing to do with the chessic decisions made in the first two games. This is his very first long match, and his first world championship. He is showing nerves, which is perfectly normal for such events.

Even Tigran Petrosian, known as Iron Tigran,  lost his first world championship game against Botvinnik. He then settled down to make three straight draws before winning his first game. He ended up winning the match with 5 victories, 2 losses, and 15 draws.

Carlsen and Anand are both trying their best to become the next world champion. 

On a side note, I've seen before that on days when there are byes in these events, the trolls tend to come here and post walls of text, copying post after post and adding a single line. 

Before big games i was taught to visualize 2 things.

Picture yourself winning then picture yourself losing and your opponen laughing at you afterwards.

When the game starts i am too angry to be nervous! That works for me and i know for a fact i am not in the majority. As many play their best relaxed.

I think in Game 1 Carlsen was nervous and Anand had done some nice preparation which gave him the edge in the game. About half a pawn according to engines.

That Anand then chose to force the early 3 fold repetition from a superior position showed me that he is isn't that confident of his chances and may be looking for 12 draws and a rapid game play-off as his best chance.

Game 2 was a direct challenge by Carlsen as he played an opening that Anand and Leko are well-known experts in and had few issues in equalising (to about 0.3 of a pawn). Again Anand had the option of trading queens for a quick draw or playing the more aggressive (and preferred by engines) line following Qg4. Again he took the safe option.

So both game Anand has choosen to take a draw from a positon where he had a small edge.

Let's see when Carlsen gets a 0.4 or so edge if he bails out to take a draw at the first opportunity. Frankly I doubt it. 

Anand's best chances in such a short match may be to rely on his superior opening prep to never get behind and just take draw after draw (or hope Carlsen falls into some really devastating prep like Aronian did in his game with Anand earlier this year).

For the sake of the observers though - it would be good to see Carslen take the lead - then Anand will have to come out guns blazing....

I agree that Carlsen's preference is a side issue. I also have no problem with the games so far. But, whatever one thinks of the draws, it is simply wrong to attribute them solely to Anand, or to call him a boring player.

Carlsen's praise of Anand as World Champion bears notice: "a worthy World Champion, a role model chess colleague and a highly esteemed opponent."

What sort of champion will Carlsen become if and when he becomes World Champion? He may become one who eschews that match system that has mostly been the norm since 1886. If so, his "era" will be bad for chess.

Anand has been the champion under several systems. He is reticent to express the views that he was not the legitimate champion when FIDE went insane, but I suspect that he has a strong preference for the classical system.

A rest day in a match is not a "bye". Byes in tournaments do create rest days for individual players.

I think Carlsen is going to have to do something off the board to stop Anand from playing this strategy. Shame him  into a finishing the game where one side wins. Never seen a champion play chicken little till now! I think he wants to tick Carlsen off so bad he does not stay within his game.

Your Chess IQ jumped significantly over the last hour.

Carlsen is glad to see Anand not press an advantage and make a draw.

When and if Carlsen get such an advantage he will press on.

that triky ol indin nos howda play possum / ima tellin ya

No, I don't blame Anand nor Carlsen. I blame the whole Championship Match for these boring games. And that's include the players.

They know this type of draws is coming, they have done nothing to stop it. This should be a time to rest the tournament for a week as some kind of punishment. It's like saying "Are you both gonna play or not?" If not, let's stop here, so we can all have fun.

I am going to take deer off the open fire

and replace with some fresh Anand and let it roast slowly( Carlsen style).

It happens every morning. Coffee!

Players expressions after first and second game showed their playing style as well as intentions. Carlsen was visibly embarrassed and disgrungtled for playing such short draws while Anand's happiness knew no bounds.  

he sure did. I'm amazed how much hate there is for two totally likeable fellows. Anand is a prince. Carlson is phenomenal. Taking sides is very suspicious. In any case, chess will win. 

Anand is more mature and chooses his words carefully. Carlsen is a young man with little experience.

It's just the picture folks get. We don't know what their strategies. But those draws are some sort of strategies, a disgusting one.

Anand tries to be a champion one more time. Carlsen wanna be one and ends it. But neither has the capability to achieve their purpose. So, instead of playing, they sacrifice chess and spectators to the ultimate.