Me vs Team chess.com (FINAL THOUGHTS)

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cheater_1

As I said before, I underestimated the cumulative strength of 750 cheaters. I now realize that I will NOT mate you all in 40 moves.

What I am beginning to LOVE now is reading the posts on YOUR end. Oh, yes, I have infiltrated your camp. Oh yes, I monitor the vote count, Oh yes, I vote for the SECOND best move, hoping that I can throw it off. Dont cry now, Erik said that this is a gloves off, no holds barred, anything goes match.

I love how WEBGOGS has become your champion. He reminds me much of myself in the young days. Nothing more than a 1700 player with a few STRONG programs, a big ego, and a penchant for masquerades. It takes a cheater to catch a cheater, ya know. Don't blow this one webgogs or me thinks you'll have a mutiny on your hands. You'll be exiled into cyber-hell by 750 of your little minions.

Chess.com, look at our board veryyyyy carefully. There are only 38 legal moves for you to make. That's it 38. Many of those are junk moves that will NEVER be made or even thought about. I can spot that in 15 seconds. Depending on what move you make, I have about 26 legal moves--many are losing moves. I know what move team chess.com is going to make BEFORE you all do. I'm two steps ahead of you. I have written down 3 potential moves for you to make for move 24. I plugged them in and I ALREADY KNOW what my 24th move will be BEFORE you have made your 24th move. See, it does no good to let our comps think for 8 hours--the hash table gets WIPED just like RAM when you power off your computer. You may have some long complicated line worked out, but the second I make one move that isnt in your line.....BOOM.....it's back to the drawing board. Remember, I have altered my program settings and am PLAYING FOR THE DRAW. It's time to step up, people.


cheater_1

Hey Blackadder, I inputted the shredder game into Rebel. Nh3 was deemed as a BLUNDER. However, I just cant believe ANY prog would make hxg5. Rebel didnt even think about that one, at least it never showed up. It PROMPTLY suggested d5xc4. I noticed this was a 30 minute game, so I let it think for about 30 seconds per move and it stuck with d5xc4.

What kind of garbage program would take the bishop? The program was not set up right or told to THROW the match for some reason. NO PROGRAM would take the bishop.


themirrortwin
I am very interested in this game, but we don't need all this bickering.  Lets just play the game out.  If it is a draw, that is okay with me.  The only thing which would upset me if we ended this game early.  Other than that, I am having fun and hope everyone (yes including cheater_1) is having fun too.
Blackadder
cheater_1 wrote:

Hey Blackadder, I inputted the shredder game into Rebel. Nh3 was deemed as a BLUNDER. However, I just cant believe ANY prog would make hxg5. Rebel didnt even think about that one, at least it never showed up. It PROMPTLY suggested d5xc4. I noticed this was a 30 minute game, so I let it think for about 30 seconds per move and it stuck with d5xc4.

What kind of garbage program would take the bishop? The program was not set up right or told to THROW the match for some reason. NO PROGRAM would take the bishop.


Why didn't the engine take the peice? Did it "see" the line? (if so then that is the obvoius reason it wasn't taken. = no horizon effect.)

OR, was it that those savy programmers changed  the evaluation algorithims to make sure computers do not overestimate the value of the piece in such positions.

 

 


likesforests

Fritz and Rybka correctly assess the position (reach the horizon) after 7.Nh3 in about 10 seconds on a typical computer.  That game was played eight years ago. Computers roughly double in speed every two years, so it's very possible that getting deep enough into the position back then might have taken more than was allowable in a rapid game. 


cheater_1

Gimme a "D" ...........Gimme an "R" ............Gimme an "A" .........Gimme  a "W" ...... What does that spell?............. DRAW!!!!

 


RespawnsibleOne

This dude is on a major ego trip, you know this could all be settled by him watching two engines going at it and claiming to be the engine that wins. He isn't even entertaining anymore, his whit appeal has faded away.
fluffy_rabbit
cheater_1 wrote:

Gimme a "D" ...........Gimme an "R" ............Gimme an "A" .........Gimme  a "W" ...... What does that spell?............. DRAW!!!!

 


Some other of Cheater_1s top secret cheating software: Spell Checker


Webgogs

Cheater-1( er ah Cheater- zero):

A 1700 play using Chessmaster I believe is your total claim? Why are we beating Rebel then? I don't believe CM can beat Rebel. Not according to all the engine matches at SSDF. I have Deep Fritz 8, Fritz 10, CM 10 and a few others like an older Shredder. My computer is a dual core 2.1Ghz with 1Gig of ram. That's it till next week. Then I get a Q6600 quad core loaded with ram. So next week you resign?

 

It's time for you to leap out of your mom's closet in just a Batman cape and admit to the world you are inadequate! Don't worry, we won't laugh. 

 

Teasing aside, what does you program say now? 


LetThereBeChess

Cheater_1...You maybe good but there IS always someone better. Like that Albert E guy. There are some who can see even what he could not. Let me ask you - do you know what ***-think is? From what I have said you do not need me to give you the first three letters. If you are one of "us" then you will know.

if not...then nevermind this response


Rael
tooeasy, you need your sarcasm meter checked. It's malfunctioning.
bgianis
cheater_1 wrote: What I am beginning to LOVE now is reading the posts on YOUR end. Oh, yes, I have infiltrated your camp. Oh yes, I monitor the vote count, Oh yes, I vote for the SECOND best move, hoping that I can throw it off. Dont cry now, Erik said that this is a gloves off, no holds barred, anything goes match.

That is what I was thinking about,since the beginning of the game.I raised the point in my comments that he might be watching.And unfortunately I was right.He's been watching everything.But if he thought he was unmateable,then why would he spy the team comments?So,this clearly indicates his uncertainty about the result.

Among the participants,who could be the cheater?


LATITUDE

Differently than before, he now looked upon people, less smart, less
proud, but instead warmer, more curious, more involved.

 When he ferried travellers of the ordinary kind, childlike people, businessmen,
warriors, women, these people did not seem alien to him as they used to:
he understood them, he understood and shared their life, which was not
guided by thoughts and insight, but solely by urges and wishes, he felt
like them. Though he was near perfection and was bearing his final
wound, it still seemed to him as if those childlike people were his
brothers, their vanities, desires for possession, and ridiculous aspects
were no longer ridiculous to him, became understandable, became lovable,
even became worthy of veneration to him. The blind love of a mother
for her child, the stupid, blind pride of a conceited father for his
only son, the blind, wild desire of a young, vain woman for jewelry and
admiring glances from men, all of these urges, all of this childish
stuff, all of these simple, foolish, but immensely strong, strongly
living, strongly prevailing urges and desires were now no childish
notions for Siddhartha any more, he saw people living for their sake,
saw them achieving infinitely much for their sake, travelling,
conducting wars, suffering infinitely much, bearing infinitely much, and
he could love them for it, he saw life, that what is alive, the
indestructible, the Brahman in each of their passions, each of their
acts. Worthy of love and admiration were these people in their blind
loyalty, their blind strength and tenacity. They lacked nothing, there
was nothing the knowledgeable one, the thinker, had to put him above them
except for one little thing, a single, tiny, small thing: the
consciousness, the conscious thought of the oneness of all life. And
Siddhartha even doubted in many an hour, whether this knowledge, this
thought was to be valued thus highly, whether it might not also perhaps
be a childish idea of the thinking people, of the thinking and childlike
people. In all other respects, the worldly people were of equal rank
to the wise men, were often far superior to them, just as animals too
can, after all, in some moments, seem to be superior to humans in their
tough, unrelenting performance of what is necessary.


Xhu
As we have just witnessed, espionage, sabotage, and of course cheating can only take you so far in chess.
Marshal_Dillon
I wonder if erik is now going to go into the database and delete all the alternate accounts cheater used to try to influence or contaminate the vote.
Majnu2006

After reading all this childlish arguments by cheater_1 I have only one advice for chess.com about this matter: Do Not Feed The Troll.

Now let's play chess and enjoy together, that is what we are here for, aren't we?