MIKHAIL TAL VS MANGUS CARLSEN?

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stancco
Northeasticetiger wrote:
DrCheckevertim wrote:

I'm sure Tal could also attack, defend, prophylaxis, and many others.

tal has died. He will not be attacking or defending OR sacrificing any more

Wrong. Tal could be resurrected.

jo90ways

Carlsen with aid of a software   during  its training  CREATED  Carlsen

that is not so difficult to create   ..... Trust me

TAL  was created   By his superior analyses  which was  impossible

to understand  even to world-champions   ,  or  to  early Chess-softwares     ......  baby !!

Fisher & TAL are incredible !

Carlsen  is the product of a chess software !   

a software that has integrated inside  all the moves that TAL MADE ,    baby !

Some 10 years ago I  tested  a Chess-software ......

To let you understand I SET( ON mycomputer) some  positions

were TAL versus BOTVNIK  was playing [for instance]  ........ and

just 10 years ago the Chess-software  could not spot 

a consideberable number of  winningMOVEs that TAL saw !!

......   chess-softawres  were made ON   Tal's superior skills ......

can you believe that !!

When  Fritz , Deep-Blue , Stockfish are built ......

what do you place inside them ??

You Put   TAL  inside them !!      [you fools ]

not Carlsen nor Kasparov !

jo90ways

Tal is a magician  ......

Carlsen is a replicator and an imitator .

But if you  do not have the intelligence to see that ......

I pity you .....  and I will not argue !

TAL lives in HOLLAND

CARLSEN lives in FRANCE

they know nothing of each other ....

then They Play !!

wopSSSS     Carlsen loses ALL the GAMES  out of the Blue !

The following Day  CARLSEN  (  with a software that lets him understand and analyze )

tries to UNDERSTAND what MAGIC was that .....

Then He can try a second time !!

Without software there is no second time .... there is a second DEFEAT , sir !

jo90ways

TOP 3 players  .....  hands down   [ According  to relativity-Theory (By EINSTEIN) ]

1)    Paul Morphy       [  He was not Human though ]

2)      Mikail TAL

3)       Fisher

According to strength :

the last one is the strongest        [ you fools ]

 

 

 

jo90ways

You think that  nowadays Chess-players  are very strong !!

I will DISCLOSE a little SECRET  .... Because  I  pity your being so NAIVE !

Nowadays chess-players  ......  from Kasparov on  ..... suck !!

Why  ..... Because 95%    of their games are  memorized ......  not played !!

you see a great combination  & you think  they are better than TAL !  ..... wrong !

They have memorized that position and many other ones with the

calculating aid of a CHRESS-software and now they already know what sacrifice to perform .....

That is not a move is  a memorized-position !!

wooOOOOOO    know   you   got it !!    ....AT LAST    !!!!!

TAL imprecise sacrifices   WERE for REA:L

Nowadays  Perfect sacrifices are FAKE   ...... already MEMORIZED [with the help of a softawre]

.......

But now the cheating is gOING even FURTHER .......

With aid of  a  DEVICE  it is possible to suggest MOVES .....

MOVES PLAYED by a CHESS-software   to a playing-person !!

NOW you see a  MONSTER CHAMPION  ........  

After 1980    they are all cheating one way or another ........  [ can 't you see ]

All position have been analized .....

The GAME is not valid anymore

It is not you PLAYING .... But the moves of an engine !!

Where is your SKILL INVOLVED !

That is why KASPAROV lost against a guy who played a Losing-opening

BECAUSE he had not MEMORIZED that Line since it was a completely lost opening !

FISHER when a guy played a Losing-opening .....  Laughed at him ......

But spent 20 minutes before ATTAKING !!   [& winning]

You see they are not GREAT  .... they have a good memory !

You see CARLESON   played against   NEIMANN  and lost

was it Because NEIMANN  played a strange LINE CARLSON  had not Memorized or

Because he was  CHEATING ?

 

You choose .....  either way  they are not CHAMPIONS  just great Cheaters !

I am sure you agree  with me .... DEEP down

The ERA of CHAMPIONS  is OVER  ,...... babies

they are not MONSTERs  .....    but average people .

CHESS is still a GAME under 2000 ELO  or less

Because people  have not memorized ALL the moves yet !!

ABOVE  2000  ....   it is [for a BIG chunk ]     CHEATING   ALL over !!

 

Sorry guys  .... I am sorry .......   But you should know that !!

Someone should wise you up ......  and let you see the Crude truth !!

the GAME is for Replicators or Cheaters .

CHAMPIONs   are before 1980 !!

 

Thanks

P.S.

Some  year ago  I saw a young-GM 

replicating TAL's sacrifices   [of two bishops]

and thinking that he was even better !

ARE  you  seriously KIDDING me !

He   studied that POSITION  where TAL was a genius ....  That GM was a mere Relicator !

Grrdy
Red-Ear-Slider wrote:

I think Tal has some kind of secret method to see if a sacrifice works out at the end. Maybe it is something about the opponent's pawn structure, the number of your pieces in the vicinity of his opponent's king... etc.

There's a Tal quote about this: "Some sacrifices are sound; the rest are mine."

 

PenguiCat

There is big merit in old Grand Masters, but I think they cannot beat any of the new Grand Masters of chess because of technology advances.

In Tal times after you finish a match you need several days to analyze the whole match, today you have the engine analysis In seconds or in real time.

Old gran Masters cannot play the amount of matches that we play today with internet against players from all around the world, they need to travel a lot and play mostly against the same opponents.

So, instead of asking if a old Grand Master can win to a new one, the question should be if the old Grand Masters could beat the new ones if they was trained under the same circumstances.

AkruitChess

Ahh yess, my fav chess player. Mangus Carlsen

RR_Wu
blueemu

Mongoose.