Millionaire Chess 2!!

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BMeck
RubiksRevenge wrote:

There are some legitimate arguments to the pros and cons of running this type of chess tournament, from what I have read, some don't like the so called elitism that this event could attract and poor old Joe Bloggs cant afford to spend $1000 on an entry fee let alone the expenses of getting to and staying in Las Vegas. I think the same argument was put forward when Airlines started to offer Business Class and the poor traveller was afraid that Airlines would see that they make much more money from the Business Class passengers that eventually the poor people would have to resort to Bus, Trains, Ships to get where they want to. Well that has not happened and both types of passengers can happily go about there personal choices for travel. 
The same goes for this MC event.
You know when detractors of this MC event have lost all ability to debate the cons of the MC event is when they resort to personal attacks against the organisers and the actual competitors that have either gone or intend to go. 
Will wait for the negative comments about my post and possible attacks against my character in due course, even spelling mistakes are welcome as we all know that intelligent debate has to have intelligent grammar. 

No one is complaining about paying the entry fee. We are saying that this tournament does nothing for the sport and that the organizers did not know what they were doing. Nobody is afraid of all tournaments having a high entry fee since this tournament failed from a financial perspective. I understand you dont have the time to read the entire thread but at least read enough to make legitimate claims.

maskedbishop

>when they resort to personal attacks against the organisers and the actual competitors that have either gone or intend to go. <

I'm not aware of many, if any, personal attacks on the entrants. As for the organizers, there have been some, but you have to concede that it's very difficult to separate the event from the pair behind it...and this is their own doing. They have actively promoted themselves from day one, with photos, flashy biographies, and blogs whenever they promote the actual tournament. They ARE the tournament, and very much want us to see it that way. 

As an example of "normal" tournament promotion, here is one site:

http://www.chesstour.com/nao14.htm

Please try and find a photo of the organizers, or blurbs about their personal accomplishments, or promises that you can be photographed with them, etc. Millionaire Chess has been as presented as much as a personality cult as it has a chess tournament...which is a one reason several of us have issues with it. 

And to the question "what does that matter," well, consider that as it is set up now, both on its website and in the playing hall itself, the tournament functions first as the Ashley-Lee Show, and then only afterwards as an actual chess event. Without these two, it doesn't exist...and personality-driven tournaments are never good for any competitive sport. In this case, once one or both of the organizers tires of the event, or has a conflict, or they tussle between themselves...it's done. 


edmundich

maskedbishop, everyone has already understood your position. Why are you still on this forum, poisoining space with your negativity? You are a sad person. Bet you are single

Darth_Algar
edmundich wrote:

maskedbishop, everyone has already understood your position. Why are you still on this forum, poisoining space with your negativity? You are a sad person. Bet you are single

What's sad is making presumptuous cracks about a person's character or status because you dislike their opinion on something that has no bearing on you personally. Talk about negativity....

edmundich

Darth Algar, i respect people's opinions, when these opinions voiced once. Beathing the dead horse and being a troll is not voicing the opinion.

edmundich

What happened to my comment??? why did it get deleted?

Darth_Algar
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maskedbishop

On a more festive note, MC currently has 134 entrants with 18 days to go before their entry price jumps up to the full $1000. 

The hotel has still not been announced. It might be time to make book that it never will be.

RubiksRevenge
rdecredico wrote:
RubiksRevenge wrote:

There are some legitimate arguments to the pros and cons of running this type of chess tournament, from what I have read, some don't like the so called elitism that this event could attract and poor old Joe Bloggs cant afford to spend $1000 on an entry fee let alone the expenses of getting to and staying in Las Vegas. I think the same argument was put forward when Airlines started to offer Business Class and the poor traveller was afraid that Airlines would see that they make much more money from the Business Class passengers that eventually the poor people would have to resort to Bus, Trains, Ships to get where they want to. Well that has not happened and both types of passengers can happily go about there personal choices for travel. 
The same goes for this MC event.
You know when detractors of this MC event have lost all ability to debate the cons of the MC event is when they resort to personal attacks against the organisers and the actual competitors that have either gone or intend to go. 
Will wait for the negative comments about my post and possible attacks against my character in due course, even spelling mistakes are welcome as we all know that intelligent debate has to have intelligent grammar. 

Your post is idiotic and your metaphor is spurious.

Note, that is not a personal attack as a personal atack would see me calling you an idiot and I have no way of knowing whether or not you are one but continued posting of this ilk by you suggests strongly that you are indeed a myope and fully incapable of understanding the valid criticisms of both the people running the event and the event itself.



 

I am not an Ant. So don't bother.

TheGoalkeeper

Hmm...

Doc_Detroit

Already 2 annual tournaments in Vegas with buy ins <$200; why exactly would one choose MC?

woton

The chance to win big money.  

maskedbishop

>The change to win big money.<

And again, for the jillionth time...that is not something that motivates 95% of amateur chess players out there, and even if it did, they don't have thousands of dollars to spend on flying, staying and playing in a high-price tournament in Las Vegas.

The MC organizers have never understood this, and I doubt they ever will When this thing flops, they will blame a lot of things, but will never acknowledge the very simple truth that doomed this from the start:

It's too expensive.

edmundich
why do you care

>The change to win big money.<

And again, for the jillionth time...that is not something that motivates 95% of amateur chess players out there, and even if it did, they don't have thousands of dollars to spend on flying, staying and playing in a high-price tournament in Las Vegas.

The MC organizers have never understood this, and I doubt they ever will When this thing flops, they will blame a lot of things, but will never acknowledge the very simple truth that doomed this from the start:

It's too expensive.

maskedbishop

>why do you care<

So I have the erudite thrill of debating you, Eddie Ick. 

themaskedbishop

Boy has this thread become a ghost town. The wind whistles through the empty streets, tumbleweeds blow down the alleys...and the Chillionaires count their entries, like seconds on the doomsday clock....

small_potato

180 entrants so far. I believe this week is the last chance to register to obtain the cheapest entry ($880). Will be interesting to see if any substantial number of people register once the discount finishes.

Bronco

@bishoptroll

Wow back as a girl.

Hot

Did you other account get closed?

themaskedbishop

No, I was always a girl. Thought I should be more honest with you all.

>Will be interesting to see if any substantial number of people register once the discount finishes.<

I would subsitute amazing for interesting. 

TMB

ashikuzzaman

MC#1 Champion Wesley So has just signed up in MC#2 to defend his title! yooooo.....

By the way - the current list of 182 registrants doesn't include him name yet. I guess it will be updated later.