Millionaire Chess 3

$500-$1000 to enter a tournament?  I dont think so.  I have no desire to fight against people that sandbag, and cheat.  And no there is no way the organizers are going to be able to stop it.  

Nice argument. Just brush aside all dissent by calling those posters "promoters". Because saying it enough times makes it true and those dissenting opinions invalid. It looks like YOU are the person who might need more lessons in critical thinking here. I don't know why I bother posting in this thread.

But you will.

Your getting paid to.

KingandMate writes:

I'm not "promoting" MC or its events. I am just an enthusiastic past participant who likes to see the glass as half full, not half empty, as most posters in this thread seem to like to do. I was actually not going to attend MC3 because they were insisting on a time control of 40/90 before. But they listened to my feedback and that of others and lengthened the time control. I will probably attend now.

How did you know MC was insisting on the shorter time control? Then they payed particular attention to your feedback? Could it be being of the "inner circle" ? Direct contact with the promoters?

King ... absolutely nothing you write depicts the event as "half full". It is over flowing the brim in your depictions.

 They are indeed unable to stop it.

It happened twice already, third time will be no different.

And your arguement is false. Many people post here having positive things to say about MC. I and others have debates about the model. Both sides have valid points. I do not "shout" promoting to them.

You on the other hand, have nothing to offer but repeating the spin MC is compensating you for. So get off your high horse, you can fool some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time.

Your arguments don't make much sense, and your conclusions about me are false. I have stated many times before that I sometimes email Maurice Ashley with feedback and suggestions. MC2 had the shorter time control, and Maurice informed me that they were probably going to go with the shorter time control again. Communicating with tournament organizers and giving them feedback in this fashion is not that hard to accomplish, and it definitely does not require one to be a paid "promoter"! You do worse than "shout" in this thread. You label dissenters "promoters" just because you don't agree with their opinions. You are free to disagree, but you are NOT free to post false and unsubstantiated assertions about others. I have not read a lot of positive comments about MC in this thread except from a few posters. There is no true "debate" here, especially when you start calling others "promoters." You, of all people, do not seem like a person interested in true debate and discourse. And your negative bias and contempt towards MCO and its organizers are obvious to all but perhaps yourself. You criticize virtually every aspect of MC and its events, even when it's trying to make good changes. It's actually pretty amazing when I see you "spinning" everything about MCO and Maurice Ashley in a negative light. I at least try to offer a balanced view (and I have offered plenty of criticism about MCO in the past, such as the sandbaggers in MC2). This thread seems to exist mainly for you and others to complain about MC and their model. I will leave you to that, while I seek truly open-minded people and true debate elsewhere.

Just what do you wish to debate ?

I see no room for debate with a someone so devout in their faith of Maurice. He's a crook. A wanna be scam artist doomed to failure. Living off the skirt tails of Amy and her family.

Right. Thank you for proving my point. Your negative opinions are already set, whether your conclusions are true or not. YOU are the one who is "devout" in your faith, or shall we say your cynicism. I am done with you.

Who else has given their support to MC besides VictorEric, Amys family business in Vancouver?

The USCF doesn't count.

Why in 3 years has MC been unable to secure a single corporate sponsor? Sure, a few companies advertise and provide media support. But not a single major supporter. Is it because their CEO'S see thru the scam? It's long term vision is an illusion?

An excellent movie it is "The Grifters "

Cusack, Benning and Houston

I try to watch every movie about the "grift"

Of course the standard is The Sting

Another excellent view is Shade

chesss is ccocl

Maurice has been long known as a gentleman that hangs onto "petticoats". Just stating what is known by his associates.

You guys can hang out here and denounce and criticize Maurice Ashley and MC all you want and tell each other how right you are. I don't find much of the discussion here productive or helpful; I don't see a lot of suggestions on how you might grow chess in the U.S., improve chess tournaments, or help talented and motivated chess players actually make money playing chess, for example. Mostly, I just see a lot of criticism and cynicism. This is not for me. Have fun here.

Yeah, mostly a circle jerk of negativity in these MC topics.

We don't need to tell each other how right we are - everyone can see MC fail, it's blatantly obvious.

As for what could have been done differently, check the first and especially second MC thread, it was all talked to death long before you arrived trying to PR spin.

For whatever it's worth, here is my take on it: Maurice and Amy had it backwards.

Instead of trying to make money first while just claiming to promote chess, they should have truly promoted it as a grassroots movement. And after several years, as soon as chess was big enough in the US, then both players and sponsors could probably have been found for an event like MC.

But they failed to see which type of event tends to find sponsors internationally, and more important, which types of event don't.

They had dollar signs in their eyes instead of a solid buisiness model. They had greed instead of a good and realistic analysis of their potential market.

And to top it all off, they insulted our intelligence by claiming they were taking chess to the next level.

They got what they deserved.

It's go time !

(MC'S slogan)

Good summary Steve. Contributers here have made many, suggestions and expressed ideas how to better promote chess. Both long term and a better short time business model. I recall posts by aww...rats with his suggestions. Sure, harse criticisms are often expressed. Most likely because it is blatantly obvious MC has gotten alot of things wrong. Instead of helping chess they are bringing it down. The guise of bringing it to a new level is transparent. MC is nothing but a promoter dipping his fingers for a profit. They can't even get that right. To believe the spin MC has been in any shape or form a success is to believe in the tooth fairy.