Mouseslips

Hey friends,

I recently had a game where my opponent blundered and then claimed it was a mouseslip. Normally I don't give takebacks for mouseslips unless it is really obvious (e.g. moving Kf8 instead of castling when castling was the natural move to make). 

Here was the position in question...

 My opponent in this position plays 1...Qxg2+? 

At first I panicked thinking he wins back my queen with the discovered check/double attack tactic until I realize that I can just take the bishop after 2.Kxg2 Nd4+

I took his queen and then my opponent requests the takeback. Now, if he had made a move like 1...Qg5 or something then I would have considered it, but 1...Qxg2+ intending the discovered check seemed too "natural" of a blunder.

In any case, he called me unsportsmanlike and such, but I think I was in my right to not give a takeback as I personally never request them. 

What do you think?

Seems obvious. Anyway, you simply don't ask for a takeback. To me is that's wich is unsportsmanlike.

What's a chancer?

He probably just got upset and needed an excuse. I don't like that. I think it is immature. But I have slipped with my mouse as well, but only in live blitz or bullet. I don't take it seriously. I just resign and start over.

Can't play bullet without a mouse...I should really get a mouse for my laptop :)

I'd suggest to keep avoiding that madness instead.

Never give takebacks. If you mouseslip, you gotta live with it. I've had games where I've mouseslipped and been offered takebacks, and declined!

Here is my logic.

Mouseslips imply that you were going to move something close to what you moved, likely with the same piece that you moved.

No one says "I mouseslipped" when moving the a8 rook instead of the g8 knight. ...Qg4 is the only sane move someone MIGHT consider that would be consistent with the mouseslip Qxg2, but even Qg4 is a stupid move, hanging b7.

Right now, his bishop is attacked. There are a few ways to save it, but NONE of them involve moving anything on the kingside, and none of them involve moving something in the vicinity of g2.

Hence, your opponent didn't mouseslip (chance is very very low), and is just realizing his poor play. You should tell him that.

he's just upset he blundered in a winning position.

Backrak: you did the right thing. I don't even how you slip to G2.

I agree with what heine-bore said.

Mouseslips are what mice wear under their dresses. Like here:

Thanks, folks. I never ask for a takeback, and I'm never going to give one, so that should solve things.

I asked him at the time...he said he was "playing around" which makes me think he held his queen there to "visualize" what it would be like to take on g2 (considering the discovered check tactic)...in which case that borders on cheating to me. In any case, I tried to be peaceful with him as I try not to make enemies over the chessboard.

actually, it's not. cc provides an analyze feature where one could make as many moves as they want.

It's all pointless. Someone who would need to "visualize" Qxg2 by actually almost taking the pawn, not seeing the one-move refutation, doesn't deserve a takeback.

He should have used the "Analyze" feature

It was a standard game on ICC - Internet Chess Club.

I offer my opponent a draw if I see they made an obvious mouse slip, like when trying to castle, but often they just decline and thank me for it instead. It's just that I like to play chess proper so I prefer my opponent make the right intended moves.

I personally don't care what a person tells me.  If they made the move they made the move.  For all i know they could be lying, and they might of not really mouse slipped and are just not man enough to take a loss due to an oversight that lost them the game in a perfectly good game, or even winning game before the last move even...  I had a guy tell me that he was supposively going to win the game we where playing had he not of made a "mouse slip."  I couldn't see what he was talking about, but oh well.  in this case, I think the guy was lying, because his story didn't check out, as I saw that he would have had a worse position regardless of the mouse sllp, not the sure win he was talking about...  maybe he just thought I'd agree with him... who knows.  All and all I think people like this who lie and say they mouse slip when they blunder are not good chess players, asking for a draw even when it is not justified.  Regardless though, there is no way to prove that it was indeed a mouse slip.  For all we know the guy is just lying and wants a draw or a takeback because they arn't man enough to live up to their mistake.  For that reason alone, I chose not to accept draws or takebacks when someone claims a mouse slip, and I naturally resign when it happens to me, or just play on and hope for some luck...