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Dalek

I am watching a series of videos about hanging paws, and the person explaining in the video about it, just pushes the pieces automaticaly a lot ot times until reaching the position he wants to reach.  

My point is that those lessons could at least explain (even quickly) the reasons of the moves until the position they want to detail.

"I am not discussing all the moves until here" or "will not explain the opening here",  Let's see, only for the gods?  Ah, ok. Which one of the gods, if it is the case, so that we patzers may worship?

Nowhereplans

Even good books leave some lines or positions that are not crystal clear, because the book would become twice as big if everything had to be covered. Don't be too upset about it, it's nothing elitist I'm sure. Use another resource if you actually want to play that opening. If you don't want to play that particular opening, you don't need to know how the position came on the board anyway and you can just learn something about the relevant concept in the middle game. 

BronsteinPawn

The videos/book are clearly out of your league. Look for something easier.

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The other side of it is when they stop at lots of obvious moves as if they need an explanation... and then they don't even do a good job explaining it. They assign some random beginner platitude like "centralization" or "open file" when that's not even the real point. And then when they get to the interesting and difficult moves they hardly give any comment at all.

... or when they stop at a totally normal move and say "a very strange looking moving, but it's actually ok" just because it violates some beginner thing like don't put the knight on the edge or don't double your pawns.

Dalek
BronsteinPawn wrote:

The videos/book are clearly out of your league. Look for something easier.

Ginger GM does it simple in his videos.  Nothing is hidden from the poor inferior souls.  I don't want to memorize games, but only to understand why they are played, That doesn't take much time, guys.  Or should we go to some temple and get the newest  charades from apolo to understand them?  

ArgoNavis
marcusrg wrote:

I am watching a series of videos about hanging paws, and the person explaining in the video about it, just pushes the pieces automaticaly a lot ot times until reaching the position he wants to reach.  

My point is that those lessons could at least explain (even quickly) the reasons of the moves until the position they want to detail.

"I am not discussing all the moves until here" or "will not explain the opening here",  Let's see, only for the gods?  Ah, ok. Which one of the gods, if it is the case, so that we patzers may worship?

Become a pastafarian.

BronsteinPawn

Ginger GM made a book on the Dragondorf, that enough should give you enough info about what type of GM he is.

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BronsteinPawn

Seriously tho, just open your position in your engine and make the move you would make to see if the engine refutes it, its good that you have questions. If you have questions on videos do the following:

 

1-Pause it, try to figure yourself what the hell is happening there and why did they play such weird moves, what happens if they play a move that looks normal to you?

2- If you couldnt figure it out just turn you engine and ask the same question.

 

That is a good practice that makes videos less of a passive training and may teach you valuable things.

I still think the books are way out of your league if you cant do step 1. In case they are just look for more detailed books.

BronsteinPawn

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wasderd
Theres a chess book called "Logical chess, move by move". As the name suggests, its a compilation of annotated games in which each and every move literally has its own annotation, it might come handy for you.

You can buy the book for about twenty bucks or get it for free on the pirate bay tho.
BronsteinPawn
wasderd escribió:
Theres a chess book called "Logical chess, move by move". As the name suggests, its a compilation of annotated games in which each and every move literally has its own annotation, it might come handy for you.

You can buy the book for about twenty bucks or get it for free on the pirate bay tho.

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marcusrg wrote:
BronsteinPawn wrote:

The videos/book are clearly out of your league. Look for something easier.

Ginger GM does it simple in his videos.

Even Bobby Fischer has a beginner's book: "Bobby Fischer Teaches Chess"

I like the Chernev suggestion though: "Logical Chess Move by Move"

Dalek
0110001101101000 wrote:
marcusrg wrote:
BronsteinPawn wrote:

The videos/book are clearly out of your league. Look for something easier.

Ginger GM does it simple in his videos.

Even Bobby Fischer has a beginner's book: "Bobby Fischer Teaches Chess"

I like the Chernev suggestion though: "Logical Chess Move by Move"

 

I have both books,

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marcusrg wrote:
0110001101101000 wrote:
marcusrg wrote:
BronsteinPawn wrote:

The videos/book are clearly out of your league. Look for something easier.

Ginger GM does it simple in his videos.

Even Bobby Fischer has a beginner's book: "Bobby Fischer Teaches Chess"

I like the Chernev suggestion though: "Logical Chess Move by Move"

 

I have both books,

Do you like Chernev's book?

BronsteinPawn

Do you guys agree with me that John Nunn's Understanding Chess move by Move is a cancer? Or maybe I already knew everything (in the sense of the ideas presented, ofc Im no match for Nunn).

That book was full of analysis, it was so much I got cancer by reading that thing. Literally tons of pages with analysis.

 

In other hand Zurich 1953 was a gem when I remember it, not annotated move by move and I am sure beginners would have a hard tiem with it as it doesnt mention simple tactical tricks but boy if Bronstein did a great job explaining the games.

 

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I have both those books. Nunn's book is good, but for lower rated players. Bronstein's book is a classic, I still haven't played over all of those games.

BronsteinPawn

I think I red Chernev's book and specially Nunn's book a little bit late then.