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Jul 14, 2008
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#3
Yeah for sure I'm with you bro. Are we entirely sure that everyone on the site is fluent in English? I feel like the nationalities are pretty diverse and I've noticed that people from Canada and US and UK and stuff like that are much less likely to be mute. Just a thought.
hah that's a funny topic, I have been thinking about it too. I don't really know whether I should introduce myself or say hello or anything. Mostly I see if my opponent does, then I answer. Or if I'm in a good mood.
It must also depend on the number of games you play, I understand greeting 15 players a day can be meaningless. And maybe it is at all. Because it's not like really meeting someone over the board.
I think it's the polite thing to do, not necessary. I don't do it myself mostly, not to be rude. Just because you don't really know or get to know someone.
Generally I don't like to chat with some stranger I'm playing on the internet, only if it's someone I know. Sometimes saying "good game" or "thanks" after playing can sound patronizing if you win. If you lose (speaking for myself at least) you may feel frustrated and not wish to exchange pleasantries.
One of the big appeals to me of playing on the internet is not having to be social. But recently I joined a chess club and have started playing over the board for the first time, and even sitting across from eachother we don't really talk, only afterwards to discuss the game.
So while it's nice when someone is genuinely polite and friendly online, there's plenty more that will jeer you and gloat, or be sarcastic in their politeness. I'd much prefer silence to that.
I personally don't say anything unless I mean it. I play to play, not to be socialable. If I wanted to be sociable, I'd go someplace designed for social activities.
i personally make an effort to say hello and good game.
as a side note, i usually play 15+ minute games so extensive conversation is constrainted by time
i don't expect others to, but when they do, i am pleased.
It's hard to generate conversation with a total stranger. The only way I will generate some conversation over the board is if I make a blunder (to at least show I made a mistake), or if me and my opponent fight really hard on the board - then conversation kind of sparks, and it is mutual. I don't think you should expect an opponent to want to say a whole lot. I at least want a hello during a turn-based chess, and I will say hello to my opponent during live chess, but I don't think much about sparking conversation unless something cool happens, good or bad :-). From there, normally I have pretty fun conversations with my opponent, since I see that they are pretty good natured about the game, not taking it so serious and all.
I rarely message. I don't want my competition to feel as though I'm attempting to distract with conversation. If someone is interested in exchanging pleasanties, I indulge. Otherwise, I allow the game to speak for itself, in most instances.
Jul 15, 2008
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#10
Can the argument be made then that Chess is an anti social game?
I personally enjoy conversing with opponents. I see nothing distracting about it, especially if the conversation isn't about chess then its even more fun.
I never liked that whole silence thing about Chess, a little conversing and maybe a laugh or two here and there never hurt anyone.
What annoys me is when you pull off some great tactical plays and you've cornered your opponent where checkmate is inevitable and then all of a sudden they resign and close the window. I think thats just poor sportsmanship no matter how you look at it. But ig uess this is a whole different issue.
But anyway, to each his/her own i guess.
yea i agree, i always send a trophy after my games , its just being polite
Jul 15, 2008
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#12
It doesn't really cost much to say 'hello' or 'hallo' or 'hola' or 'ciao' or 'salut' or whatever it is in your language and I think it's nice to be greeted by your opponent (in his/her or your language). However you just can't force people to be polite; As maniac2008 said, a trophy is also a very good idea, especially after a good / enjoyable game to thank the person for the time spent on the game. But this is a very personal issue and it shouldn't become a rule. I simply think I tend to have more respect for opponents who greet me or answer my greetings and I feel more inclined to talk about a bad or good move or a variation. Obvioulsy blitz or quick games are different, even though comments such as 'gg' are nice too, whether you win or lose.
To each his own I suppose. There are times when I begin a game with a greeting and other times when I do not. It usually depends on how pressed for time I am at the moment, how many games I'm playing, what kind of a day I'm having, etc.
Those who send greetings at the start of each game and/or finish a game with a "thanks" or "well-played", etc. are likely to continue to do so regardless of what others are doing - or not doing.
I'm always glad to receive a welcome and will respond in like manner.
I try to be gentle, since we are playing humans and not computers. It doesn't matter it's the internet and you don't have to see each other faces; there's still a person in the other side.
But like someone allready said, not everyone is fluent in english. I recently encouraged a friend of mine to join the site and I noticed he got greeted by most his oponents and he wouldn't answer because he doesn't understand much english. But I guess he could at least answer in spanish. Everybody knows what "Hello" means.
Jul 15, 2008
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#15
I usally say hello. Unless in live chess the game has started because I want to focus on the game.
When my opponent made a very good move then I say it to him.
I never let my opponent know that I just made a mistake. Let him think it is a strategy he did not see. He will feel insecure and use more time to think.Esspecially in live chess this could be an advantage of a disadvantage.
Or like our famous Dutchman Johan Cruijf says:each disadvantage has its advantage.
yeah same as me Gert-Jan
ozzie_c_cobblepot wrote: Are you talking about live chess or turn-based?
Both =o)
i like to chat sometimes during a game but i totally respect if others dont.. so i will usually start with have a good game for example
jhuschstp wrote: Yeah for sure I'm with you bro. Are we entirely sure that everyone on the site is fluent in English? I feel like the nationalities are pretty diverse and I've noticed that people from Canada and US and UK and stuff like that are much less likely to be mute. Just a thought.
Good point and you're right.
Except I get it a lot from Canada the US, and UK too =o). Besides, ''Hi'' and ''good game'' are pretty intuitive and even if someone doesn't understand the language, they can answer ''ola'', ''bonjour'', or whatever. I don't think language is the issue here (I personaly love it when I get a ''zdravo'' or something... then I play around and go on google translate since I just met someone from another country... is it me or is that not amazing ?).
MeccaMiles wrote: I personally don't say anything unless I mean it. I play to play, not to be socialable. If I wanted to be sociable, I'd go someplace designed for social activities.
Weeell... here is my opinion on that : Chess is a game and by definition has an opponent, therefore it is a social activity since it involves another person. If you play any other sport: tennis, volleyball, hockey, soccer, ping pong, whatever, most people always say ''hi'' and ''good game'' even if one opponent smashed the other to smitherines. I find its just more human and fun that way. It shows respect.
I don't want to force anyone to do anything, I just like to encourage good sporsmanship and a fun environment =o).
Just wanted to rant a little about players who never say "good game" or "thanks for playing" or just a plain hello, or have a good one. I don't know, there is something a little unsportsmanlike to just close a window in someone's face without a second's hesitation. I find internet chess is notorious for that... I hoped chess.com would be a little different, and it is a lot more friendly than most sites, but it still happens a lot. How about not letting it become that way ?
Cheers, have a good one
Steph