I made an illegal move in otb classical twice after the pandemic one made an effect another 1 did nothing
MUTUAL BLINDNESS: HANGING QUEEN FOR FIVE MOVES, NEITHER OF US NOTICED
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Mar 21, 2022
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#23
“Made an effect”? What kind? Winds? Lights? Tell me what special effects were set off by your illegal move.
Mar 21, 2022
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#24
B1ZMARK wrote:
oh god i didn't see it either wttffff
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I looked through the game like twice and couldn't find lmao
Mar 21, 2022
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#25
And there was me lamenting that nobody over 1200 ever hangs a piece.
Mar 21, 2022
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#27
B1ZMARK wrote:
They do you just don’t see it
Nah, I analyse all my games... I play whole games vs 1100's where nobody hangs anything. There's a perception of 'don't hang anything = 1500.' I wish it were so. But it's just garden variety condescention, unfortunately.
Mar 21, 2022
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#28
MisterWindUpBird wrote:
B1ZMARK wrote:
They do you just don’t see it
Nah, I analyse all my games... I play whole games vs 1100's where nobody hangs anything. There's a perception of 'don't hang anything = 1500.' I wish it were so. But it's just garden variety condescention, unfortunately.
Dude how are you this low rated then
I can fully assure you even pieces get hanged at the 2000's level
wow
PrisonOfXanadu wrote:
What gets me is that after 17. Nxc5, he took the knight on c5 with his knight on b3... I've never laughed so much at such idiocy from both of us
This is exactly why highlight moves should be kept on. The FM could have clearly seen the hanging queen just by clicking the knight.
MisterWindUpBird wrote:
B1ZMARK wrote:
They do you just don’t see it
Nah, I analyse all my games... I play whole games vs 1100's where nobody hangs anything. There's a perception of 'don't hang anything = 1500.' I wish it were so. But it's just garden variety condescention, unfortunately.
Don't listen to txygc's propaganda. The art of hanging pieces and mates applies in all levels of human chess. It's just less frequent the higher you go up in the rating ladder.
Mar 22, 2022
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Marcyful wrote:
PrisonOfXanadu wrote:
What gets me is that after 17. Nxc5, he took the knight on c5 with his knight on b3... I've never laughed so much at such idiocy from both of us
This is exactly why highlight moves should be kept on. The FM could have clearly seen the hanging queen just by clicking the knight.
Show legal moves? Lame
B1ZMARK wrote:
Marcyful wrote:
PrisonOfXanadu wrote:
What gets me is that after 17. Nxc5, he took the knight on c5 with his knight on b3... I've never laughed so much at such idiocy from both of us
This is exactly why highlight moves should be kept on. The FM could have clearly seen the hanging queen just by clicking the knight.
Show legal moves? Lame
Better than not taking a hanging queen
PrisonOfXanadu wrote:
Well in blitz it's always the instinctive move. I would prefer to move another piece, not play Rb8, so after Bd2, I instinctively start looking at other ways to defend the pawn (i.e. Qa5). I guess I played it so confidently that I didn't see it and neither did my opponent because of the confidence I had. And after we both don't see it for one move, we don't see it at all if we don't think twice about it
I felt that blunders are usually not that common at the higher level. As such, when you hung your queen, your opponent must have trusted that you played a fairly decent move (and would have therefore not expected the blunder).
On your opponent's side, he was probably trying hard to bring the b3 knight to, say, d4 or c5 in the future. As it turned out, he was so preoccupied with the c5 square that the b3 knight ended up going to c5.
For some reason, the pawn duo on a4 and b4 seems to give me a degree of blindness too.
B1ZMARK wrote:
Like I said pattern recognition working against us
In my case it's me being too over-confident in this position. I used pattern recognition, got overconfident in looking at the pinned queen and I moved my rook from f1 to g1, forgetting that the queen on g7 could capture my bishop on f6.
The difference is, he saw the move immediately - it was a one-sided blindness of mine. It cost me a full game and my opponent broke a rating barrier as a result.
Having said that, mutual blindness isn't exactly very rare. I have allowed my queen to hang for turns before without realising it - and the fact that my queen remained on the board for a few turns shows that my opponent was also oblivious to the same fact.
https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/live/41633393403
queen blunder or brilliant?