At the outset friends, let me introduce why I joined and created this thread..

Well, I love the game of chess..and though I am only an average player, I go through numerous amazing games just to see and enjoy the art of chess and creativity demonstrated by the players..I don't hope to create any such artistry myself and that's why these days I am more into administartion and organization of chess rather than playing it myself..of course, occasionally I do play a tournament, but haven't read or studied chess nor intend to do it..bcoz for me its a sport, not a matter of study...

Coming to the point, I was absolutely heart broken on seeing today's 9th game of carlsen vs anand..they agreed to draw with so many pieces on the board..its an absolute disgrace to the game..if u have any semblence of respect for the game and the championship, they shudnt have done it...

No sport allows mutual draws or ties by agreement..i had quite admired both these great players upon the 7th game..that's what real chess is, the 7th game...they are being payed big money (as per chess standards) and it is not for this crap...

This game made me so distraught that I have decided to take up the cudgels against this bullshit method of drawing games..I can invest a good amount of time and money for betterment of the game, because I truly love it..

I want to gauge what folks over here feel...and what is the general opinion..an online forum can be a good place to start a spark that can turn into a wildfire for social change..guys and gals pls take the pains to give your opinion if u truly love the game...opinions from titled players and seasoned writers and contributors would be thankfully welcome..

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The "Early Draw Situation"  has already been addressed:

https://www.fide.com/FIDE/handbook/FWCM2014.pdf

It was perpetual check driven by Magnus. Are you suggesting that Anand be forced to move into suboptimal position because you don't like draws?

It was draw by 3-fold repetition.

R rules meant to be cast in stone @SocialPanda? Doesn't there need to be an evolution to make a game better upon experience? And especially when such blatant misuse is being done of the rules?

@imirak, thanks for the comment..so in that case all equal positions are draws..doesn't happen that way if u play out the game in full..didn't anand blunder away equal positions in the last world championship? Why can't they immediately play another game if the question of sub optimal position occurs? My only point is they should be made to play hard..that's what sports are for..

There are many scenarios that would require either threefold or the 50 move rule to be invoked in order to resolve the game.  Fortresses and positions like this one would end up being de-facto drawn by agreement by opponents deliberately causing threefold repetition to occur:

What's the point, if the opponents agree that a game is drawn why force them to play out a ridiculous sequence to obtain that result per the prescriptive draw rules?

Unless you're playing mud chess.  Mud chess is a sport.

@TheGrobe, does today's game between carlsen and anand even remotely compare with the position u have shown? Can u show me the exact sequence of moves for a draw if the 3 fold repetition had been avoided?

@TheMouth888, I'm not a fan of anand or carlsen..so pls don't think I wanted anand to win..that is the wrong direction u r taking...only point is that today these two drew their game, but chess as a game lost...and whining is bcoz even the loser gets 400000 euros..and are millions of fans and chess lovers investing time and money to see this? Man, u got to make rules to match the situation and what is at stake..

I don't see how a draw is good for Anand it's just one game less in a short series.  The idea that black merely defends in chess is a problem as well.  As for Carlsen if he was getting into a weaker position he should have played better beforehand.  There could always be a rule that doesn't encourage three-fold repetition in such situations.  It's just part of the corrupt part of chess too when draws can just be agreed easily.  There was a 14 move draw between Kramnik and Grischuk recently.

The idea that black merely defends may be a problem, but it's really true at top level : black has to fight for equality before thinking about winning.

They both played their best moves and the result was threefold repetition.  To continue, one would have had to have made a sub-optimal move which would have been far more disrespectful to the game, as you say.

Note that the Carlsen-Anand game wasn't even an agreed draw, by the way, it was a draw under the threefold repetition rule.  My comment (and example position) was addressing the notion that agreed draws be done away with, not the situation in this game.

White doesn't have any ways to get any advantage in that position and they know it. So the game is a draw, there is no better option than 3fold repetition.

you can argue that threefold repetition is a kind of agreed draw...

trying to prevent two people from drawing in any scenario in that a draw fits both players' interests is a bit of a tough task. and these scenarios come up in chess pretty often :D

i believe that the best (maybe only) actually effective way to counter "lame draws" is by decreasing the incentive to draw, either by somehow scoring wins better (like the 3-1-0 point system) or, in the case of a match, only counting wins (like "first to 5 wins is the winner").

of course these ideas also run into some issues, but what can really be done? it's tough, every year the top level seems to get a little bit closer to the "draw death of chess" as it was feared by capa.

oh yeah, lets just make people play the same 2 checks for 50 moves, this thread is worthy of the bin...

Oh, so only positions that are obviously a draw to you are allowed to be a draw.  If it's an obvious draw to Anand or Carlsen they should keep playing even if it means one of them will be forced to lose 

Draws have always been a part of the game.  If you dont like short draws, then i would suggest taking up another hobby.  Unless youre involved insomething that high leve, and stressed filled, how can you judge these guys?  To say its a disgrace, and shows a lack of respect is ignorance speaking. 

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