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wisemhh

so this is not my first time playing chess but it is my first time i took the game more seriosly

 

but the problem is i really suck like really bad like extreamly bad and i do not know what to do to improve i have no chess opening i lose just about every time and only won once and tied 2 times

 

and i just do not know what to do this is a game i want to learn but can't

web14

what do you mean by " I want to learn but cant " .  i???

   if its a starting push ( a little help in beginning) you need then we can share info and help you get started . 

       

macer75
wisemhh wrote:

so this is not my first time playing chess but it is my first time i took the game more seriosly

 

but the problem is i really suck like really bad like extreamly bad and i do not know what to do to improve i have no chess opening i lose just about every time and only won once and tied 2 times

 

and i just do not know what to do this is a game i want to learn but can't

i think u just need to play more dont be discouraged everybody starts out this way then they get better just play some games dont worry about how well u play just try to get the hang of it soon youll be better trust me ive been through the same thing and everyone else has too so just believe in yourself and go out there soon youll improve

ModestAndPolite

You have not played a single game on chess.com yet!

If you want to get good at chess, you have to play.  Understanding comes later. Expect to lose all the time at first against experienced players.  The only way you'll win is by playing other beginners, and that will teach you nothing.

I have sent you a challenge.  If you are serious you'll accept it.

ModestAndPolite

I am still waiting.  You obviously are not serious about improving your chess.

shcherbak

There is this thing called the Internet, plenty of stuff.

xoclueless

''I am still waiting.  You obviously are not serious about improving your chess.'' 

modestandpolite also ??  pompousandbombastic...

 

?? hey... you can play a game with moi if you like?  have sent you[,]modestandpolite], a challenge

bwankbwank...

we are serious enough for both of you..

sincerely, 

apackofpelicans

bwankbwank

xoclueless

as expected, ModestandPolite did not accept mi challenge.

so.... ModestandPolite speaks out of both sides of mouth and offers advice to a beginner, but will not back up the words with action.  

this is what MandP had to say to hapless? beginner, when HB did not respond to a MandP challenge;

'' I am still waiting.  You obviously are not serious about improving your chess.'''

so...

we can say the same to you... 

you are a modest and polite gasabag, exhaling thoughts into cyberspace, but ??  

you are mainly 'serious' about yerself...  , but not chess.  

bwankbwank... 

signed..  apackofpelicans

xoclueless

orodz

Hello. I am someone who is a novice at the game of chess. I know how to move each piece, and understand the very VERY basic terminology. I have recently started playing chess again, but I really want to learn the game this time around. So I was playing with someone, and the game reached a point where his pawn made it to the last rank on the board. He promoted that piece to a queen. Then he said that once the pawn is promoted to a queen, that piece goes back to its original starting point. For example, if he is playing with white, his pawn reached f8, gets promoted to a queen, that piece then has to go back to its original starting point at d1. Is this true?!? It might be a dumb question, but it's one I am curious about. 

xoclueless

....  oh..... wait....  a communique has just arrived via UBjr...   let's see....

yes.... hmm.... .. .  it is ModestandPolite 

"Sorry, I do not play 960.''

?

hmmm... well....  it's  never to late [sort of].... to try new things...

if you are as skilled in chess as you claim.. you should have no problem..

although, by eliminating the opening systems,  the board opens up immediately.. and makes for exciting [expansive] thinking, which you may not be accustomed to, or capable of.

thegreat_patzer

wow. this is all cluttered up with birds.

chess CAN be intimidating.  lets chillax and remember that

 

MandP is right  that a given novice can learn alot by playing an intermediate (or strong) player-- but it is no easy thing to begin a game where you feel like you have limited understanding, against a player that obviously understands a lot and however it is said- is clearly going to win.

 

so guys.   this kind of begins with a simple question.   What do you want/need to understand before you play the game?   Keep in mind people as young as 5 learn this game and generally play awful random moves....  so starting old enough to make a chess.com account is at first a gift

 

because you will not be blank slate a 5year old is.

 

after learning the moves (as well as you can);;  I would say next steps is to briefly on the basics in all three parts of the game

 

* in the beginning you want to free your pieces from being blocked by pawns and put pieces near the center.  you want to get king castled.

 

* after the first couple moves you should worry about Losing (NOT exchanging-ask if you don't know the difference) pieces.   Learn how much each piece is worth

 

* the last task is to try to checkmate the king or promote the pawns.  its important to learn how to checkmate with just a few pieces.  knowing how to do so with a Queen and King versus a King-- is not as easy as you might suspect- but is definitely necesary to progress beyond being a beginner.

 

There.  lets leave it at that.

I have and will (if people want) talk/play a beginner in live chess.  I'm not strong- but I'm strong enough to talk about how to go from a beginner to someone a little stronger... and I'll do so without judging.

 

after all we were all beginners at one point.

 

and if these big (you must play to improve) players were to be honest;  once we are paired up to much stronger players- we get all nervous...

its a natural feeling.

ModestAndPolite
xoclueless wrote:

....  oh..... wait....  a communique has just arrived via UBjr...   let's see....

yes.... hmm.... .. .  it is ModestandPolite 

"Sorry, I do not play 960.''

?

 

 

hmmm... well....  it's  never to late [sort of].... to try new things...

if you are as skilled in chess as you claim.. you should have no problem..

although, by eliminating the opening systems,  the board opens up immediately.. and makes for exciting [expansive] thinking, which you may not be accustomed to, or capable of.

 

 

The aptly name xoclueless, has been a member for over 6 months but still hasn't played a game!!

 

I have made no claims about my chess skill.

 

The OP still has not played a game.  It is hard to improve if you do not play.

 

I have challenged you to a game of regular chess at your minimum rate of 5-days per move. 

 

I don't like Chess960.  The standard layout is part of what makes chess such a great game.  But I am not going to be called a coward, so challenge me again and we'll play.

 

ModestAndPolite
orodz wrote:

Hello. I am someone who is a novice at the game of chess. I know how to move each piece, and understand the very VERY basic terminology. I have recently started playing chess again, but I really want to learn the game this time around. So I was playing with someone, and the game reached a point where his pawn made it to the last rank on the board. He promoted that piece to a queen. Then he said that once the pawn is promoted to a queen, that piece goes back to its original starting point. For example, if he is playing with white, his pawn reached f8, gets promoted to a queen, that piece then has to go back to its original starting point at d1. Is this true?!? It might be a dumb question, but it's one I am curious about. 

 

Not true. 

It might be the way chess is played with some local variant of the rules that your opponent has learned, but in the official rules the promoted piece stays on the square on which it was promoted.

thegreat_patzer
orodz wrote:

Hello. I am someone who is a novice at the game of chess. I know how to move each piece, and understand the very VERY basic terminology. I have recently started playing chess again, but I really want to learn the game this time around. So I was playing with someone, and the game reached a point where his pawn made it to the last rank on the board. He promoted that piece to a queen. Then he said that once the pawn is promoted to a queen, that piece goes back to its original starting point. For example, if he is playing with white, his pawn reached f8, gets promoted to a queen, that piece then has to go back to its original starting point at d1. Is this true?!? It might be a dumb question, but it's one I am curious about. 

we Never answered that, did we?

 

once a player promotes his piece he has NO obligation to move it any place.  Just like any other piece he can keep it right there.

 

on the other hand, there are things you might HAVE to do-like stop check,etc.  so that guy might have confused you.

 

chess... is full  of situations where people figure out what HAS to be done; and figures out a way to make those required move, winning moves...  I will give an example

 

 

thegreat_patzer

note a couple things about the example...  with a queen black SEEMS to have quite an advantage.  but it has no help and if the queen is exchanged, the black king is too far from the other pawn to stop it from promoting.

 

as you said, white moves his promoted pawn back to where it started, but only because it is a good move and wins the game.  

 

is this too complicated? I wanted to show an example where one side might WANT to move his promoted piece back- and where the other side HAS to do something because he is in check.

xoclueless

good grief... now... feathers afluffle... MandP.... has throw  down the gauntlet... and challenge the packofpelicans... to a game of standard..  chess

this new development has a bird conference underway, and a counter offer will probably be sent... 

also,

''The aptly name xoclueless, has been a member for over 6 months but still hasn't played a game!!'

Not true.

This is not a fact.  Seven hundred sixty games played, with seven percent win , ninety three percent lost.

Which?  just goes to show ya.....  even when ya wanna lose..someTimes ya win.

Which? makes no sense?, but seems to be the case in the wacky world of..

chess.com.

bwankbwank


TRextastic

Please search the forums. This question has been asked a million times. There is a plethora of information on how to get better at chess, especially for beginners.

IGP1200

Getting back to the new players who have asked for advice (as opposed to the personal attacks this post has apparently degenerated into), I would suggest two things.  First, learn at least some opening theory.  Yeah, I know.  Mundane and boring.  Don't try to memorize entire volumes, just enough of a handful of standards to avoid being blown away in the first five to ten moves.  When an opponent hits you with a variation that still gets you in those five to ten moves, learn about it and how to avoid/refute it.  This leads to Point #2.

After every game, ask your opponent to analyze it with you.  Ask why they played certain moves that baffled you.  Unfortunately, this custom doesn't seem to be common on Internet chess sites, possibly due to language issues in most cases.  Sometimes it's due to just plain rudeness.  Joining a local chess club can solve that issue.

Granted, none of this will make you the World Champion in a week and you will still suffer your share of beatdowns, but gradually, it will make you a better player and you will see improvement.

orodz

Thank you ModestAndPolite and thegreat_patzer so much for your help and information. Glad I have some clarity on that. Especially the video example. You were of great help. Again, I know it was probably a dumb question. But thank you.