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MadLuc

I tried searching, but couldn't find what I was looking for.

Does anyone know why classical games fall under Rapid on chess.com ?

Thanks

Trainmehikaruplease

me too

Deranged

The issue is that classical games (30m+) are too rare and the rating pools become inaccurate as a result.

That's why it's easier to lump them all into the one category (rapid).

MadLuc
Deranged wrote:

The issue is that classical games (30m+) are too rare and the rating pools become inaccurate as a result.

That's why it's easier to lump them all into the one category (rapid).

yeah, I thought it was something like that. Problem is, if I play 10x10 minute games and lose 6 of them, and play 10 30 minute and win all 10, my rating reflects the 6 losses as all the games are 'rapid', so not really getting a true picture without a lot of parsing and work of what my rapid and classical looks like.

 

aimchess.com reports on the time format and separates the games in my above example, so I can use that, just a shame you have to go somewhere else for info that should be on chess.com. 

NikkiLikeChikki
Nobody plays it. Literally nobody wants to spend hours on one game. You can do daily or you can set the timer to up to 60 + 60 second increment, which is a lot.

Your best bet is to find a friend who is willing to suffer through such a long time control.
MadLuc
NikkiLikeChikki wrote:
Nobody plays it. Literally nobody wants to spend hours on one game. You can do daily or you can set the timer to up to 60 + 60 second increment, which is a lot.

Your best bet is to find a friend who is willing to suffer through such a long time control.

there are lots of people that play 30/10 etc, most of which take about 30 minutes to play.

french
NikkiLikeChikki wrote:
Nobody plays it. Literally nobody wants to spend hours on one game. You can do daily or you can set the timer to up to 60 + 60 second increment, which is a lot.

Your best bet is to find a friend who is willing to suffer through such a long time control.

I beg your pardon!

There are lots of people who like long games.

Alramech
NikkiLikeChikki wrote:
Nobody plays it. Literally nobody wants to spend hours on one game. You can do daily or you can set the timer to up to 60 + 60 second increment, which is a lot.

Your best bet is to find a friend who is willing to suffer through such a long time control.

I would beg to differ.  Other sites show that if some standardized classical time controls are introduced, a player pool for "classical" time controls does emerge.

Considering the size of Chess.com, I am positive that the same would occur for this site.

 

MadLuc
Alramech wrote:
NikkiLikeChikki wrote:
Nobody plays it. Literally nobody wants to spend hours on one game. You can do daily or you can set the timer to up to 60 + 60 second increment, which is a lot.

Your best bet is to find a friend who is willing to suffer through such a long time control.

I would beg to differ.  Other sites show that if some standardized classical time controls are introduced, a player pool for "classical" time controls does emerge.

Considering the size of Chess.com, I am positive that the same would occur for this site.

 

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nklristic

There are those of us who play longer games (I mainly play 60 minutes per side), but it is true that the majority of people prefer to play faster games. I believe that there are still a lot of lower rated people who plays longer games, but probably a lot less of the higher rated ones. For instance, I've set the search to -200/+400 rapid rating (a month and a half ago), and the only time I got the opponent who is a lot higher rated was when I was playing against new accounts (and in most cases their ratings were inflated). I am talking about random search, I don't really count when I set the game manually with someone higher rated. The highest rated players (which weren't new inflated accounts) I got in random search for now are people rated around 1650. 

baddogno

Just join a club if you want slow play.  This seems to be the most popular...

Slow Chess League

mahone20

no one plays it? haha.. i play 30m all the time and i dont wait for an opponent more than 5secs. So people do play long games even if you dont.

krazeechess
baddogno wrote:

Just join a club if you want slow play.  This seems to be the most popular...

Slow Chess League

 

Jtnez

I never thought it was rare, I like 30m games especially as a beginner I get to slow down and think before moving. I never have a problem finding an opponent

Deranged

When Nikki says "no one plays it", I think Nikki means that pretty much no one above 1500 rating plays it.

Like I don't see people my rating playing 30m+ games. Not unless they're brand new accounts with provisional ratings that are very inaccurate and have a high chance of being engines.

The longest time control that people 2000+ rating still regularly play is 10/0 rapid.

And you don't want a player pool that exists only for beginners. The pool should cover all levels, from beginner to grandmaster, which classical does not.

NikkiLikeChikki
There was a breakdown of games played and the 30 minute one was 1%. It might’ve been less but they didn’t use decimals.

Now imagine an hour or more further splitting the pool. A handful of people in here insisting that they love it does not a multitude make. It also further amplifies problems with cheating and stalling. Can you imagine sitting at the board doing nothing for half an hour and it turns out your opponent just left the window open and is off watching Netflix? Terrible.

There is no conspiracy against long format game, they’re just not popular. You can arrange a 60+60 with your friends which should be long enough to put you to sleep.
Moonwarrior_1
NikkiLikeChikki wrote:
Nobody plays it. Literally nobody wants to spend hours on one game. You can do daily or you can set the timer to up to 60 + 60 second increment, which is a lot.

Your best bet is to find a friend who is willing to suffer through such a long time control.

+1

Alramech
NikkiLikeChikki wrote:
There was a breakdown of games played and the 30 minute one was 1%. It might’ve been less but they didn’t use decimals.

Now imagine an hour or more further splitting the pool. A handful of people in here insisting that they love it does not a multitude make. It also further amplifies problems with cheating and stalling. Can you imagine sitting at the board doing nothing for half an hour and it turns out your opponent just left the window open and is off watching Netflix? Terrible.

There is no conspiracy against long format game, they’re just not popular. You can arrange a 60+60 with your friends which should be long enough to put you to sleep.

I don't think any additional standard time formats would have to be added; rather, I believe the proposition here is that a "Classical" rating be applied to the existing longer formats.  The following standard options are in the Play menu:

  • 30 min
  • 45|45
  • 60 min

 

tractorson7

Everyone I know who wants to improve plays longer time controls. The longer the better, so you can use your full calculation skills. Even Magnus blunders in 10/0 games. There are entire leagues devoted to long play. That said, many people just want the adrenaline rush of fast games, which is fine too. Just not going to make you a better chess player imo.