Notation tournament question

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babu2014

Hello! I play in scholastic chess, and recently played in a tournament. During one of the rounds, I was taking notation. My opponent asked for my notation and I politely said no and told him to pay attention. My opponent then started saying how I had to let him have my notation for him to take. I still declined. my opponent then started to argue saying I HAD to give him. Frustrated, I gave it to him. Once again, my opponent asked for notation about 5 minutes later. I said the same thing and my opponent got very angry and started to say I HAD TO(same thing). Again, I gave it to him.

My first question is, by USCF rules, do I have to give my notation to my opponent, or is he responsible to get it and not ask me? My coach said that I don't have to and shouldn't while that kid said I had to. (this is for future use as well as an analysis on my actions and what I should've done).

Next, about 10 minutes later, I messed up on notation and scratched out a bunch of moves. However, I kept taking notation from the spot we were at, ignoring the moves I messed up on. AGAIN MY OPPONENT ASKED FOR NOTATION! Same thing happened, this time he got up, went to a TD, and said I wasn't taking notation! And that I refused to! However, I showed him and he said I wasn't CUS I scribbled it out. The TD agreed with my opponent. Regardless of my notation state. He then, made me give my notation to him(the opponent made me give it to my opponent) saying I had to.

SECOND QUESTION, If I mess up on notation, but continue taking notation is that legal?

THIRD If I mess up I notation and stop, is that legal?

thanks

TL;DR my opponent asked for notation, I said no, he got mad and said I had to. so do I have to give it to him?

Martin_Stahl

Yes, if you opponent wants to see your notation, they are allowed to do so on their time.

You are also required to keep taking notation, even if you mess up. The only time you don't is if you or your opponent have less than 5 minutes on the clock and there is not an increment of 30 or more seconds.

 

If you are missing more than three move pairs I think, would have to double check, then you don't have complete notation and your scoresheet can't be used for draw claims.

EscherehcsE

The USCF rules regarding the borrowing of scoresheets is a bit complicated. The rules that apply are 15D, and possibly also 15E and 15F. To get a complete answer, you should get a copy of the USCF rule book and read all of the applicable rules.

 

However, in general, your opponent can ask to borrow your scoresheet, if both players have at least 5 minutes remaining in the current time control, and if your opponent's clock is running . (Once your opponent returns your score sheet, he can then stop his clock.)

 

Now, here's the interesting part - If your opponent asks for your score sheet, you are urged to comply, but you have the right to say no. However, if you do say no, your opponent may then stop both clocks and talk to the TD. If the TD agrees that you must loan your scoresheet to your opponent, you cannot refuse.

 

If your opponent asks for your score sheet an excessive number of times, the TD might decide that the excessive requests fall under the category of annoying behavior, and the TD might rule that you don't have to loan your scoresheet to your opponent.

 

One last comment - If your opponent is able to read your scoresheet without actually borrowing the scoresheet, he is free to use that information to correct his scoresheet.