Opening Theory and Vegetarianism are both OVERRATED.

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zborg
Charlotte wrote:

i was wonderin why my 'Beef in Black Bean Sauce' was so tough to eat when a couple of years ago from the same chinese it used to melt in your mouth. i thought it was dog initially, but now I know it's horsemeat. it doesn't really fuss me, but it's not as good and they are breakin the law. but the last two years they have sent me a christmas card, so i'll see if they can up their game before i think about reporting them.

Robert Shrimsley reports today in the Financial Times (U.S. version) --

Where’s the beef -- Tesco and other supermarkets (in the U.K.) have stopped selling some beefburgers after checks found traces of pork and horsemeat in some products.


David Cameron was facing embarrassment after traces of waffle and obfuscation were found in his major EU speech.  Analysts identified DNA from pro- and anti-EU camps but were unable to ascertain the exact percentage as they were still struggling to find the beef.  Laughing

 

 
atarw

Burger King used to put horse meat in its burgers

zborg

After My Friend Flicka went off the air, I suppose.

That was my Mom's favorite TV show and book, about a horse (I believe).

zborg

Hey, you forgot the Special Sauce.  Laughing

atarw

A krabby patty

ethmel
Stevie65 wrote:
SPARTANEMESIS wrote:

Not real peace, it's a figure of speech.

shhhh.. cake mixes name is a secret..peace to you..wether you like it or not!

No it's not, everyone knows that Bicarbonate used to be Chris2212, and then Calamity Christie. A guy, from Ireland. btw, what is a sock puppet? Wink

Stevie65

A sock puppet is someone who doesn't know what a sock puppet is. Because if they did know what it was they probably wouldn't be one.

ethmel

I wasnt asking you in person it was a question for everyone. And anyway, you never even answered the part about Calamity Christie, Lest we forget

ethmel

Smile

Stevie65

We could try and say it in a chorus but i don't think that would work somehow..Lest you forget,you didn't ask a question about Calamity Christie

Stevie65

I know who it is Ethmel. You've got a long memory

nameno1had

For everyone that thinks it is absolutely imparative to eat animal flesh in order to build strong healthy bodies...

....examine in you will the wild beast of the field...he eats no meat, he doesn't require special suppliments, but look at the astonishing amounts of muscle and bulk, these peaceful vegetarians are able to amass. Are they weak ? Ever look at what the average animal vegetarian is capable of ? Consider for a moment what an elephant, a gorilla, or a bison is capable of in terms of size, strength, muscle and ability.

Some people hate religion, and rightfully so, but if you consider wisdom that is sometimes overlooked or thought of as folly, you would be wise to consider the idea that we were originally created to be vegetarians and  Daniel's challenge to the king, of having his servants consume only vegetables and water for ten days and compare them to those who ate the king's choice foods. As the story goes, the vegetarians were found to be healthier, stronger and sharper.

AlCzervik

As if on cue.

bronsteinitz

Ethmel, in my opinion you are not Yogi Bear, but we have no people that find it necessary to come explain this. This is supposed to be fun. I have a head you know, like most here.

HessianWarrior
nameno1had wrote:

For everyone that thinks it is absolutely imparative to eat animal flesh in order to build strong healthy bodies...

....examine in you will the wild beast of the field...he eats no meat, he doesn't require special suppliments, but look at the astonishing amounts of muscle and bulk, these peaceful vegetarians are able to amass. Are they weak ? Ever look at what the average animal vegetarian is capable of ? Consider for a moment what an elephant, a gorilla, or a bison is capable of in terms of size, strength, muscle and ability.

Some people hate religion, and rightfully so, but if you consider wisdom that is sometimes overlooked or thought of as folly, you would be wise to consider the idea that we were originally created to be vegetarians and  Daniel's challenge to the king, of having his servants consume only vegetables and water for ten days and compare them to those who ate the king's choice foods. As the story goes, the vegetarians were found to be healthier, stronger and sharper.

And these animals are born to be just what they are, vegetarians with teeth that restrict them from eating meat. As far as Daniel goes we as humans were born with teeth to eat meat and if Daniel and his pals chose not to eat the Kings food whatever it might have been they only did it for ten days. Don't drag something out of the Bible without qualifying it with all the examples of the people eating the fatted calf, or the lamb for Passover. 

nameno1had
HessianWarrior wrote:
nameno1had wrote:

For everyone that thinks it is absolutely imparative to eat animal flesh in order to build strong healthy bodies...

....examine in you will the wild beast of the field...he eats no meat, he doesn't require special suppliments, but look at the astonishing amounts of muscle and bulk, these peaceful vegetarians are able to amass. Are they weak ? Ever look at what the average animal vegetarian is capable of ? Consider for a moment what an elephant, a gorilla, or a bison is capable of in terms of size, strength, muscle and ability.

Some people hate religion, and rightfully so, but if you consider wisdom that is sometimes overlooked or thought of as folly, you would be wise to consider the idea that we were originally created to be vegetarians and  Daniel's challenge to the king, of having his servants consume only vegetables and water for ten days and compare them to those who ate the king's choice foods. As the story goes, the vegetarians were found to be healthier, stronger and sharper.

And these animals are born to be just what they are, vegetarians with teeth that restrict them from eating meat. As far as Daniel goes we as humans were born with teeth to eat meat and if Daniel and his pals chose not to eat the Kings food whatever it might have been they only did it for ten days. Don't drag something out of the Bible without qualifying it with all the examples of the people eating the fatted calf, or the lamb for Passover. 

I didn't say man wasn't authorized to eat meat. The debate was over whether it was feasible, possible and was there any evidence to support it one way or the other. If you want to use the scripture to tear down what I am saying, but refuse to use it to qualify my point about us being created as vegetarians to begin with, then you are starting to remind me of people I have gone to church with who only want to use part of it to justify their position. They have totally turned me off to religion.

However,while considering these things, if this isn't further evidence of having grace to live as we choose, I am not sure what is. Certanly the same book gives us plenty of evidence to choose either path and it is acceptable. Sometimes it is a good idea to consider what is preferred and by whom, instead of what we can get away with. Another reason I have been turned off by religious fanatics.

DrFrank124c

If you believe in evolution you believe that humans are descended from carnivorous apes that needed meat to survive. Our teeth prove that we were created to eat meat.  If you believe in the Bible, it says the animals were created to serve man. And there are numerous examples of people eating meat. As for the vegie animals, there bodies were designed to convert vegies into protein, ours is clearly not. It is possible for people to live only on vegies, but you got to know what you are doing or you will eventually sicken and die.

HessianWarrior
nameno1had wrote:
HessianWarrior wrote:
nameno1had wrote:

For everyone that thinks it is absolutely imparative to eat animal flesh in order to build strong healthy bodies...

....examine in you will the wild beast of the field...he eats no meat, he doesn't require special suppliments, but look at the astonishing amounts of muscle and bulk, these peaceful vegetarians are able to amass. Are they weak ? Ever look at what the average animal vegetarian is capable of ? Consider for a moment what an elephant, a gorilla, or a bison is capable of in terms of size, strength, muscle and ability.

Some people hate religion, and rightfully so, but if you consider wisdom that is sometimes overlooked or thought of as folly, you would be wise to consider the idea that we were originally created to be vegetarians and  Daniel's challenge to the king, of having his servants consume only vegetables and water for ten days and compare them to those who ate the king's choice foods. As the story goes, the vegetarians were found to be healthier, stronger and sharper.

And these animals are born to be just what they are, vegetarians with teeth that restrict them from eating meat. As far as Daniel goes we as humans were born with teeth to eat meat and if Daniel and his pals chose not to eat the Kings food whatever it might have been they only did it for ten days. Don't drag something out of the Bible without qualifying it with all the examples of the people eating the fatted calf, or the lamb for Passover. 

I didn't say man wasn't authorized to eat meat. The debate was over whether it was feasible, possible and was there any evidence to support it one way or the other. If you want to use the scripture to tear down what I am saying, but refuse to use it to qualify my point about us being created as vegetarians to begin with, then you are starting to remind me of people I have gone to church with who only want to use part of it to justify their position. They have totally turned me off to religion.

However,while considering these things, if this isn't further evidence of having grace to live as we choose, I am not sure what is. Certanly the same book gives us plenty of evidence to choose either path and it is acceptable. Sometimes it is a good idea to consider what is preferred and by whom, instead of what we can get away with. Another reason I have been turned off by religious fanatics.

Just support your statment in red.

nameno1had
frank124c wrote:

If you believe in evolution you believe that humans are descended from carnivorous apes that needed meat to survive. Our teeth prove that we were created to eat meat.  If you believe in the Bible, it says the animals were created to serve man. And there are numerous examples of people eating meat. As for the vegie animals, there bodies were designed to convert vegies into protein, ours is clearly not. It is possible for people to live only on vegies, but you got to know what you are doing or you will eventually sicken and die.

Are the children's teeth set on edge due to the sins of the parents ?

It is interesting that is in the book...notice to it says don't eat flesh with it's blood, that is it's life. Ever wonder what the results of extra homones from animals do the flesh of people ? Homones are genetically altering substances. They cause cell structures to change. They are very powerful substances. It is the reason we were forbidden to consume blood in particular. Blood is full of hormones, growth hormones, hormones that effect strength (andrenaline, testostrone, etc.) and it is said you are what your eat. Literally, if you are ingesting the hormones of animal, you are more likely to have your flesh change some what in characteristics over time.

nameno1had
HessianWarrior wrote:
nameno1had wrote:
HessianWarrior wrote:
nameno1had wrote:

For everyone that thinks it is absolutely imparative to eat animal flesh in order to build strong healthy bodies...

....examine in you will the wild beast of the field...he eats no meat, he doesn't require special suppliments, but look at the astonishing amounts of muscle and bulk, these peaceful vegetarians are able to amass. Are they weak ? Ever look at what the average animal vegetarian is capable of ? Consider for a moment what an elephant, a gorilla, or a bison is capable of in terms of size, strength, muscle and ability.

Some people hate religion, and rightfully so, but if you consider wisdom that is sometimes overlooked or thought of as folly, you would be wise to consider the idea that we were originally created to be vegetarians and  Daniel's challenge to the king, of having his servants consume only vegetables and water for ten days and compare them to those who ate the king's choice foods. As the story goes, the vegetarians were found to be healthier, stronger and sharper.

And these animals are born to be just what they are, vegetarians with teeth that restrict them from eating meat. As far as Daniel goes we as humans were born with teeth to eat meat and if Daniel and his pals chose not to eat the Kings food whatever it might have been they only did it for ten days. Don't drag something out of the Bible without qualifying it with all the examples of the people eating the fatted calf, or the lamb for Passover. 

I didn't say man wasn't authorized to eat meat. The debate was over whether it was feasible, possible and was there any evidence to support it one way or the other. If you want to use the scripture to tear down what I am saying, but refuse to use it to qualify my point about us being created as vegetarians to begin with, then you are starting to remind me of people I have gone to church with who only want to use part of it to justify their position. They have totally turned me off to religion.

However,while considering these things, if this isn't further evidence of having grace to live as we choose, I am not sure what is. Certanly the same book gives us plenty of evidence to choose either path and it is acceptable. Sometimes it is a good idea to consider what is preferred and by whom, instead of what we can get away with. Another reason I have been turned off by religious fanatics.

Just support your statment in red.

If you read Genesis it clearly explains how man was put into a garden with trees to eat from and we were free to eat of all of those trees except for one. After man's fall, as the first sacrifice to atone for our sins and cover our nakedness, the Lord killed animals, made coverings for us and covered our nakedness. We weren't hunters back then, we were merely foragers.