Opening Theory and Vegetarianism are both OVERRATED.

BTW Frank, I believe nothing doesn't spontaneously become something, therefore, something always existed. That means existence has always existed and as the origins for everything else in existence, one thing created everything else or the possibility for others to create things. Death or the lack of life, doesn't become animate. Therefore life always existed, therefore there is a creation and it is possible for created being to evolve somewhat. The design paramaters and the environment will dictate how much. Some people think I am nuts when I say that I believe in creation and evolution.

In the Old Testament (maybe Leviticus) it laid out what animals you could or could not eat, one of the forbidden meats was Hog meat as it was unclean; yet in the New Testament God told Peter in a vision that whatever animals he had created was Okay to eat. Sounds like being a vegetarian was a choice back then just like today. You eat vegetables, fruit, and Malto Meal and I'll eat whatever the hell I want. 

HessianWarrior wrote:

nameno1had wrote:

frank124c wrote:

BTW Frank, I believe nothing doesn't spontaneously become something, therefore, something always existed. That means existence has always existed and as the origins for everything else in existence, one thing created everything else or the possibility for others to create things. Death or the lack of life, doesn't become animate. Therefore life always existed, therefore there is a creation and it is possible for created being to evolve somewhat. The design paramaters and the environment will dictate how much. Some people think I am nuts when I say that I believe in creation and evolution.

In the Old Testament (maybe Leviticus) it laid out what animals you could or could not eat, one of the forbidden meats was Hog meat as it was unclean; yet in the New Testament God told Peter in a vision that whatever animals he had created was Okay to eat. Sounds like being a vegetarian was a choice back then just like today. You eat vegetables, fruit, and Malto Meal and I'll eat whatever the hell I want. 

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy a side of beef or half a salmon now and then....and deer jerky is the bomb....but let's get one thing straight....you won't be eating me should groceries, or animals become scarce....better start grazing..... ;-) otherwise.....bon appetite

The Old Testament in the Book of Leviticus explains the law of the clean and the unclean and tells us what we can eat and what we cannot eat. Leviticus also tells us that if we eat something that is unclean, we are unclean until evening. It is therefore my theory that if we wish to observe these Kosher laws, it is okay to eat unclean food during the daytime and while we will be unclean, in the evening we will again be clean. Just as laborers work during the daytime and become unclean, in the evening they shower and change their clothes and become clean again. I once told this to an orthodox Jewish person, a "black hat," and he was not too happy but I contend this is correct. The New Testament tells us it is all right to eat "unclean" animals," which is why I like the New Testament better than the Old Testament. I am a Doctor of Divinity and an ordained minister and I tell people they should believe in whatever gives them comfort since no one has ever proven that any one religion is better than any other nor has science been proven to be better or more accurate than any religion. If someone chooses to be a vegetarian he must be careful  since the human body requires vitamin B12 which is found only in the meat of animals. B12 is needed by the immune system to function properly. Also Phenylalanine is needed by the human body, failure to get this amino acid causes one to feel weak.  A vegetarian must take supplementation in order to remain healthy. The injunction not to drink blood refers to human blood, I believe, not animal blood. But of course if you choose not to consume animal blood, just cook your food very well before eating, I like my steaks and pork chops well done anyway.

geez, you might as well turn vegetarian, you suck all the joy out of eating meat.

You all are going to get this thread locked if you keep talking about religion. It is not allowed in the open forums.

Nope, no religion.

And rightly so, nobody has ever won a religious argument.

Religion is really not off topic. I believe chess is a zen, a meditation. It calms the mind and allows us to enter higher states.

I do also appreciate the unbiased nature of chess....

The oxy moron of the set of beliefs we live by being either offensive to label or discuss is silly....how else are supposed to share anything we think ?

Well, If the interpretation of a book helps you in this discussion, then you are truly confused. Everything that you need to know is in your heart. Eating or not eating meat is not the question.

Are we allowed to talk about talking about religion?

We're allowed to talk about talking about religion, but we're not allowed to talk about talking about talking about religion. Your post clearly contravenes this rule, though I suppose this one does as well.

Strictly speaking, just talking about religion is also against the site's rules, whether in off topic or not.

bronsteinitz wrote:

Well, If the interpretation of a book helps you in this discussion, then you are truly confused. Everything that you need to know is in your heart. Eating or not eating meat is not the question.

Interpretation ? Helps me in this conversation?....it would appear that it isn't I who is confused.....I didn't need a book or it's interpretation to either derive or qualify what I said.....It is really rather rude to assume you understand one's motives or prior knowledge, qualified or not in your mind (btw, irrelevant) , and then think you have any right to chide them....as if you have any authority on any of the subject matter....

Here we go again....

what's up Grobe ? .....

Classic!

Had to make sure I interpretted that right Al ......since I appear to be so dependent on the writing of others for my understanding....most especially while some people seem to just know things inherently, while I was stuck learning them?....lol

The British national anthem is God Save the Queen. So religion and chess do go together. Plus, I break several commandments each time I play. I really shouldn't claim any religion when I'm over the chess board now that I think of it. It gets ugly, (internally of course). What religion allows that. Uglu behavior?

Dischyzer wrote:

The British national anthem is God Save the Queen. So religion and chess do go together. Plus, I break several commandments each time I play. I really shouldn't claim any religion when I'm over the chess board now that I think of it. It gets ugly, (internally of course). What religion allows that. Uglu behavior?

I find it funny that some people in the US are opposed to G-d, but I bet if told them to boycott money, due to the print that reads , In G-d we trust.....they'd suddenly change their tune....