Opening Theory and Vegetarianism are both OVERRATED.

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Stevie65 wrote:

Horse was deemed to have a more productive value,  rats live in filth and carry disease,Hunting cats such as sabre tooth expelled too much energy,dogs had a working value also and people made good slaves.

Just eat the useless stuff

What about the common housecat? I'm sure cattle had close to as much a productive value, yet they were eaten. People can be pretty useless too. At times they're even more trouble than they're worth.

Titin_Spector
Reb wrote:

Vegetarian =  old indian word for poor hunter 

NRA: acronym for Not Responsible of Anything. We make bussines, people die... Life's tough. Blame it to videogames.

bigpoison

Cannibalism can lead to, otherwise, unknown diseases.  Kitty cats and rats ain't got much meat on 'em.  Lewis and Clark claimed that dog was the best eatin' around.  Horse ain't bad...a little stringy.

Stevie65
Sunshiny wrote:
Stevie65 wrote:

Horse was deemed to have a more productive value,  rats live in filth and carry disease,Hunting cats such as sabre tooth expelled too much energy,dogs had a working value also and people made good slaves.

Just eat the useless stuff

What about the common housecat? I'm sure cattle had close to as much a productive value, yet they were eaten. People can be pretty useless too. At times they're even more trouble than they're worth.

I have a.. hmmmm...My cat is not common! he's refined and he's my buddy.Cattle are thick and stupid!  When we became clever enough to enslave horses..We did.   and people that are useless, just feed them vegetables and put them in the cellar to help the mushrooms grow

rooperi

I try to never eat more than 2 goats in one sitting

GMegaMan
Titin_Spector wrote:

NRA: acronym for Not Responsible of Anything. We make bussines, people die... Life's tough. Blame it to videogames.

1776 WILL COMMENCE AGAIN if you take our guns SUICIDE PILLS, MASS MURDER PILLS lolz

red-lady

You have a choice, why would you cause all this suffering? And isn't it a bit hypocrite to let someone else kill an animal for you if you can't do it yourself?

Pashakviolino

I agree that middlegame knowledge and endgame knowledge is more important than know openings.

But it is ridiculous to say that basically studying openings is a waste of time because obviously it is not.

You should not study absolutely all the openings. Maybe at the beginning you can study some of them until you find which is your favorite opening. From there, you can simply study the possible variations for that opening.

However it is also important to know some other openings, at least to know how to defend and avoid making mistakes.

IE you like to play the Ruy Lopez opening, but not everybody is going to play ...e5 and then ...Kc6.

If you know only openings but you are weak in the middlegame and endgame, then hardly you will be succesful. If you only know middlegames and endgames, you may have success, but if you know your openings, you are a strong tactician and you know how to play the endgame then for sure you will be succesful.

You should be "well rounded"

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Stevie65 wrote:
Sunshiny wrote:
Stevie65 wrote:

Horse was deemed to have a more productive value,  rats live in filth and carry disease,Hunting cats such as sabre tooth expelled too much energy,dogs had a working value also and people made good slaves.

Just eat the useless stuff

What about the common housecat? I'm sure cattle had close to as much a productive value, yet they were eaten. People can be pretty useless too. At times they're even more trouble than they're worth.

I have a.. hmmmm...My cat is not common! he's refined and he's my buddy.Cattle are thick and stupid!  When we became clever enough to enslave horses..We did.   and people that are useless, just feed them vegetables and put them in the cellar to help the mushrooms grow

Pigs are intelligent creatures, and could make good buddies too, but that doesn't stop people from eating them. My main point is that a line is drawn somewhere, and vegetarians drew it at the point of eating meat.

I have encountered people that found it gross and abhorrent when they heard that people in other countries ate cats and dogs. Why? Was it just because they were familiar with them? Some vegetarians might not be so different with the exception of the need to be familiar with the animals. Those vegetarians recognize the pain and suffering without beings the ones to pull the trigger at point blank range. 

TheGrobe
bigpoison wrote:

Great forum topic, Borg!  This should be fun.

If you don't eat meat because it makes you sick, I can understand being a vegetarian.

If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding.

bigpoison
Sunshiny wrote:
Stevie65 wrote:
Sunshiny wrote:
Stevie65 wrote:

Horse was deemed to have a more productive value,  rats live in filth and carry disease,Hunting cats such as sabre tooth expelled too much energy,dogs had a working value also and people made good slaves.

Just eat the useless stuff

What about the common housecat? I'm sure cattle had close to as much a productive value, yet they were eaten. People can be pretty useless too. At times they're even more trouble than they're worth.

I have a.. hmmmm...My cat is not common! he's refined and he's my buddy.Cattle are thick and stupid!  When we became clever enough to enslave horses..We did.   and people that are useless, just feed them vegetables and put them in the cellar to help the mushrooms grow

Pigs are intelligent creatures, and could make good buddies too, but that doesn't stop people from eating them. My main point is that a line is drawn somewhere, and vegetarians drew it at the point of eating meat.

I have encountered people that found it gross and abhorrent when they heard that people in other countries ate cats and dogs. Why? Was it just because they were familiar with them? Some vegetarians might not be so different with the exception of the need to be familiar with the animals. Those vegetarians recognize the pain and suffering without beings the ones to pull the trigger at point blank range. 

That's kinda' what I thought.  I can't eat something that reminds me of me.  The suffering of a soybean be damned.

TheGrobe

It's tough to hear it, but if you really listen carrots scream when uprooted.

TheGrobe
bigpoison wrote:
Sunshiny wrote:
bigpoison wrote:

Great forum topic, Borg!  This should be fun.

If you don't eat meat because it makes you sick, I can understand being a vegetarian.

What's so hard to understand?

It's hard for me to understand why people don't eat meat because of the poor animals. 

I mean, where do you draw the line?  Why is it monstrous to kill and eat a pig, yet it's cool to kill and eat a soybean plant?

Not to mention this:

http://web.archive.org/web/20041107084521/http://eesc.orst.edu/agcomwebfile/news/food/vegan.html

TheGreatOogieBoogie

Some criticisms:

1.I agree that endgame and middlegame study should take priority over openings, but when you lose against a Budapest by playing seemingly reasonable moves or lose to an e6 or b5 sacrifice in the Sicilian you will know why opening study is important.

2. People are under no obligation whatsoever to eat meat.  If you must then go with non-GMO grass fed.  

red-lady

So you would all kill a cow or a horse then?

TheGreatOogieBoogie
Titin_Spector wrote:
Reb wrote:

Vegetarian =  old indian word for poor hunter 

NRA: acronym for Not Responsible of Anything. We make bussines, people die... Life's tough. Blame it to videogames.

Ahh, the blame it on video game crowd.  I remember the 90s when my friends (and enemies) and I were still controversial and made parents write their congresspeople about violence in video games lol!  Everyone I killed just came back to life for the sequels anyway. 

bigpoison
red-lady wrote:

So you would all kill a cow or a horse then?

It's them or us!

TheGreatOogieBoogie
Pashakviolino wrote:

IE you like to play the Ruy Lopez opening, but not everybody is going to play ...e5 and then ...Kc6.

OMG OMG Ruy Lopez Bongcloud Vatiation!!! :D

TheGreatOogieBoogie
skullskullskull wrote:

I think you should all take a tour of some high density feed lots and modern mechanized slaughter houses.  But you can't, because they don't allow tours.. probably because they're so wonderful and magical, like Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory.

I have read the Fast Food Nation and clean up crews can neither see nor hear due to machines still running, and let us say that it's very harmful for them (some lose fingers and worse).  Some places even have laws where you cannot criticize the meat industry.  Why do they insists on their GMO and pink slime?  The consumer must speak up with their dollar and go grass fed and pink-slime free. 

red-lady
bigpoison wrote:
red-lady wrote:

So you would all kill a cow or a horse then?

It's them or us!

We are the choices that we make, I guess. I'm not a coward. I can't kill an animal, so I don't let another person do it for me.

And it's not them or us, that is just not correct.