Oponent asking me to resign

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Avatar of Barcaroli

Greetings, humans. I was playing this live game (5min), basic London system opening, and then I came up with a blunder: lost my queen, beginning of the game. My opponent started sending messages asking me to resign, for honor, education, or whatever. But I had all my other pieces, so I still wanted to play! I ignored the messages and kept my game going. eventually I did resign, but far ahead, after giving him some pretty hard time. So gentleman. I'm new here, I don't want to be rude in my games. But I want to know if there is such a thing as "you should resign". what's the idea? is there a "common general understanding" about it? appreciate any thoughts. Barcaroli

Avatar of wanmokewan

It's usually rude to ask a person to resign.  You resign whenever you feel like it, but at your level you should never resign.

Avatar of Yargo

Game 5? Blunders can go both ways. Asking once is only mildly rude. After 1 remove the "mildly".

Avatar of MikeCrockett

You're entitled to play until checkmated or time runs out. The opponent is being a jerk. He has his own issues with being a poor sport and is in no position to judge others.

Avatar of TurboFish

Play it out.  Defending an inferior position is good practice.  And if the opponent has an easy win, they should demonstrate.

Avatar of Madara97

I always do that in Starcraft, because there is point to continue any match when my opponent already lost. #rudetalks

Avatar of Ben_Dubuque

As a rule, unless you have a forced draw, if you know how your opponent can win in a certain position and your opponent is of a similar strength assume your opponent knows how to win. From here I would play a few moves to see if he does. If he does just resign ( unless its a smothered mate or something similar then you're being rude if you resign.)

Avatar of drunkjosh

If people demand for me to resign, it generally only strengthens my resolve to not lose.

I realize that I'm lost and probably would have resigned against a polite person, but it is so much fun to wipe the smirk off of a rude person's (virtual) face.

Avatar of cubis

Next time someone says "You should resign" say "Yeah, I probably should" - then keep playing until mate.

Avatar of Ben_Dubuque
drunkjosh wrote:

If people demand for me to resign, it generally only strengthens my resolve to not lose.

I realize that I'm lost and probably would have resigned against a polite person, but it is so much fun to wipe the smirk off of a rude person's (virtual) face.

Of course, if it is a trivial win like a Queen and 5 pawns vs a lone king and you are the lone king you should probably resign, cause if you don't you are probably going to run into someone who will promote to all knights sac the queen and then mate you.

Avatar of Ami-Valerie

He could have finished you off with 35 .... Qd3 and 36 ... Qd1.

It takes all kinds to play chess. Playing a Queen down would be a waste of time for me unless I sacced it for a winning game. If you enjoy playing on a Queen down, by all means boogie, but don't be surprised if it annoys your opponent as chessplayers can be pretty cantankerous.

Avatar of clarapca

Barcaroli WROTE:

Greetings, humans. I was playing this live game (5min), basic London system opening, and then I came up with a blunder: lost my queen, beginning of the game. My opponent started sending messages asking me to resign, for honor, education, or whatever. But I had all my other pieces, so I still wanted to play! I ignored the messages and kept my game going. eventually I did resign, but far ahead, after giving him some pretty hard time. So gentleman. I'm new here, I don't want to be rude in my games. But I want to know if there is such a thing as "you should resign". what's the idea? is there a "common general understanding" about it? appreciate any thoughts. Barcaroli

Dont you ever resign if you dont want to. He has the problem not you. I generally resign pretty fast if I blunder and playing someone of my same strenght. For example I lose a piece or see an easy win for my opponet like a lost endgame. For me there are 2 kinds of no resign players the ones who like to defend and create from a "lost" position (no problem with them) and the ones who try to blitz you out, this other kind I dont rematch either I win or lose

Avatar of Curious-John

If you're only putting off the inevitable I can see his frustration but that depends on your relative skill levels. He could make an equal blunder, or you might be able to claw back.

You shouldn't feel pressured to resign, but playing every game to the very last move when you've clearly lost isn't that useful.

Avatar of MuhammadAreez10

At your level, you should never resign. Your opponent might blunder or anything can happen in your favour. I rarely resign in blitz games and only resign in standard games when I'm hopelessly lost.

Avatar of Darth_Algar

If an opponent tells me to resign then I will keep playing on, even if I know my game is lost, just to annoying them. It's what they get for being rude.

Avatar of TurboFish

I think the issue comes down to 2 main points:

1) Don't trust advice from your opponent (remember that they are trying to defeat you). Even if you think they are sincere, and trying to help, they could easily be mistaken (unless you happen to find yourself paired against a GM!).

2) Novices can not be reasonably expected to accurately judge when their own position is really hopeless.  When in doubt about whether my own status in a game is "still some hope" or "walking dead", I just keep playing until the situation settles down to a more easily judged position.

Avatar of Ami-Valerie

It can be difficult to judge the position when a Queen down, so you may legitimately wait until you are five Queens down before throwing in the towel :-)

(unless you are angling out for a stalemate)

Avatar of ThrillerFan

You should never ask your opponent to resign.

That said, there is the concept of chess ettiquette.  If you are playing a blitz game, G/5 let's say, there is no reason to resign.  I only resign when it's clear mate in 1 or 2, or in something like K+Q vs K or K+unstoppable pawn vs K and the opponent has over 30 seconds left.

For Correspondence Games, where you are spending 3 or so days per move, and you are down a Queen with zero compensation, you are really wasting everybody's time.  Yours, your opponent's, etc.

So it depends on the situation.  Again, Blitz, I almost never resign.  The yappers can say all they want.  Doesn't change anything.

Avatar of clutchtouch

if someone asked me to resign in a 5 minute blitz game I would ask them if they are scared to lose on time

Avatar of Ami-Valerie

There you go!

You see, you learn nothing from playing on in blitz a Queen down, but you should play on in blitz because its only really joke chess.

Whereas, you could learn by studying the position in correspondence, your opponent could forget to log back in or close their account, yet you should resign!

It all makes good sense, doesn't it ?

At the end of the day, you just boogie your own way.