pawn to queen lead to checkmate?

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earlito

It is white's turn to move.  White moves the pawn.  I believe promotion (Queen in this case) is automatic.  The question is --- what is Black's move?  Is this a stalemate because he can't or an outright checkmate?
chessgdt

outright checkmate

Ryuk4
Yep, that's mate
lasershoot

checkmate!!

earlito

Thanks for confirming!  My friend (who was playing white) was being nice to me and said that maybe it's a stalemate since the black king had nowhere to go when the pawn got promoted to queen.  I would have loved if it was so but I told him it was a checkmate.  Both of us are novices.

lasershoot

your welcome :)

earlito
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earlito

ja, IMDeviate.  

lasershoot

btw promoting into a rook is possible because it is a gullotine checkmate.

try to solve this:

 

Help!!! Can anyone improve??

browni3141

White hung his queen on move 11.

Ubik42
lasershoot wrote:

btw promoting into a rook is possible because it is a gullotine checkmate.

try to solve this:

 

Help!!! Can anyone improve??


 The correct move is not 1. e4?? (which loses the queen to an 11 move combination) but instead 1. d4! Leading to a forced win in all variations, e.g.

1...g5

2. e4 f5

3. Qh5++

etc.

Wou_Rem
earlito wrote:

Thanks for confirming!  My friend (who was playing white) was being nice to me and said that maybe it's a stalemate since the black king had nowhere to go when the pawn got promoted to queen.  I would have loved if it was so but I told him it was a checkmate.  Both of us are novices.


Even if you ignore the checkmate black still has a multiple pieces he can move. So it can never be a stalemate.

earlito

ok, ignoring the obvious checkmate, a draw only happens if all the pieces for black (just as an example) cannot make a move (stuck in place).  Gotcha.  Thanks for adding that Wouter.