PERFECT victory against a 2250! 😳

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Hey all! My quest for 2200 which I didn’t know I’d embarked on has taken a recent brief knock, but I’ve now been continually above 2100 for 55 games straight which is quite an achievement for me!

Today was a mixed day of results (and some frustrating one move blunders, yep they don’t go away haha) but I finished things off in STYLE with this flawless game in my favourite opening at the moment: the Ponziani.

My opponent was rated >2250, but clearly has not studied these lines lately! What’s cool for me is that the brilliancy wasn’t actually prep - I knew from my vague recollections that the way my opponent handled the opening wasn’t right (I have certain lines in the qe7 variations memorised, but this one wasn’t so was probably not correct), and I’m very pleased with how this game shook out.

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Very nice. I may try the Ponziani as well….

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Fet wrote:

Very nice. I may try the Ponziani as well….

I mean it’s only a good opening if you like learning the theory and traps, which I know isn’t how you like to play openings…

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Fet wrote:

Very nice. I may try the Ponziani as well….

I mean it’s only a good opening if you like learning the theory and traps, which I know isn’t how you like to play openings…

Opening traps don’t have a place in my heart or my brain. I only play opening traps when my opponent played a stupid opening and I want to counter them in the full believe they can’t punish me.

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Ein-Schachspieler wrote:
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Fet wrote:

Very nice. I may try the Ponziani as well….

I mean it’s only a good opening if you like learning the theory and traps, which I know isn’t how you like to play openings…

Opening traps don’t have a place in my heart or my brain. I only play opening traps when my opponent played a stupid opening and I want to counter them in the full believe they can’t punish me.

Don’t get me wrong, the middlegame plans when it’s not a trap are still very playable, but the only reason to play something like the ponz over traditional Italians and spanishes is the surprise factor and the lack of theory your opponent knows. That’s negated if you don’t learn the theory yourself

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Fet wrote:

Very nice. I may try the Ponziani as well….

I mean it’s only a good opening if you like learning the theory and traps, which I know isn’t how you like to play openings…

Opening traps don’t have a place in my heart or my brain. I only play opening traps when my opponent played a stupid opening and I want to counter them in the full believe they can’t punish me.

Don’t get me wrong, the middlegame plans when it’s not a trap are still very playable, but the only reason to play something like the ponz over traditional Italians and spanishes is the surprise factor and the lack of theory your opponent knows. That’s negated if you don’t learn the theory yourself

At the 800s or even 1000s, it really doesn’t matter. I am not that bad to play the only wrong moves, but I am sure they haven’t studied the side variations. I trust myself and stay open for their "Suprises".

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insane accuracy as well, nice win

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Volt wrote:

insane accuracy as well, nice win

Thanks! I’m sure it would’ve dropped off a bit if my opp had kept playing, I’m not a super accurate converter. But, thankfully, he didn’t make me!

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Nice win, maybe I should try the ponziani out

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mental-central-dialog wrote:

Nice win, maybe I should try the ponziani out

You should! Message me if you’d like me to show you some of the lines happy.png

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#3 yeah, but I start to see that I may get cooked on high level if I don't know theory….
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Fet wrote:
#3 yeah, but I start to see that I may get cooked on high level if I don't know theory….

Haha I swear I told you that a few days ago in a chat! You’re probably right.

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Ein-Schachspieler wrote:
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Ein-Schachspieler wrote:
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Fet wrote:

Very nice. I may try the Ponziani as well….

I mean it’s only a good opening if you like learning the theory and traps, which I know isn’t how you like to play openings…

Opening traps don’t have a place in my heart or my brain. I only play opening traps when my opponent played a stupid opening and I want to counter them in the full believe they can’t punish me.

Don’t get me wrong, the middlegame plans when it’s not a trap are still very playable, but the only reason to play something like the ponz over traditional Italians and spanishes is the surprise factor and the lack of theory your opponent knows. That’s negated if you don’t learn the theory yourself

At the 800s or even 1000s, it really doesn’t matter. I am not that bad to play the only wrong moves, but I am sure they haven’t studied the side variations. I trust myself and stay open for their "Suprises".

You’d be surprised to know quite how many people fall for the traps etc.

the above position, for instance, is a famous position in the ponziani. Just shy of 60% of players with black here make a losing mistake. It’s only move 6!

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I don’t fall for such things, especially because I am a way stronger player than my rating suggests. The position you showed looks very dubious for black, I am not sure if I would reach such a position with black. And the only threat I can identify after a quick look is probably Nxf2 for white. I wouldn’t play d6 I guess.

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wow this is great

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Ein-Schachspieler wrote:

I don’t fall for such things, especially because I am a way stronger player than my rating suggests. The position you showed looks very dubious for black, I am not sure if I would reach such a position with black. And the only threat I can identify after a quick look is probably Nxf2 for white. I wouldn’t play d6 I guess.


oh yea d6 qa4 I think

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Ein-Schachspieler wrote:

I don’t fall for such things, especially because I am a way stronger player than my rating suggests. The position you showed looks very dubious for black, I am not sure if I would reach such a position with black. And the only threat I can identify after a quick look is probably Nxf2 for white. I wouldn’t play d6 I guess.

oh yea d6 qa4 I think

No, actually, believe it or not after d6 the move is bb5 and the lines get very fun!

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Ein-Schachspieler wrote:

I don’t fall for such things, especially because I am a way stronger player than my rating suggests. The position you showed looks very dubious for black, I am not sure if I would reach such a position with black. And the only threat I can identify after a quick look is probably Nxf2 for white. I wouldn’t play d6 I guess.

The position as it stands is one of the best responses to the ponziani and has been played hundreds of times by masters, including in a game between hikaru and vishy Anand!

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Btw what do you think about the Evans gambit compared to the Ponziani?
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Ein-Schachspieler wrote:

I don’t fall for such things, especially because I am a way stronger player than my rating suggests. The position you showed looks very dubious for black, I am not sure if I would reach such a position with black. And the only threat I can identify after a quick look is probably Nxf2 for white. I wouldn’t play d6 I guess.

The position as it stands is one of the best responses to the ponziani and has been played hundreds of times by masters, including in a game between hikaru and vishy Anand!

Interesting. Just give me one tip: Does it starts with 1.e4 or 1.d4?

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