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Kittysafe

The hard part seems to be in understanding descriptive language.

RetGuvvie98

try this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Descriptive_chess_notation

Kittysafe

Ya, I've got that page open thanks.

rooperi

I'd like to help, but I'm having trouble opening that link, sometimes the connections in deepest darkest Africa is not too reliable.

So, I'll give you a crash Laughingcourse......

The name of the square is always seen from the perspective of the player who's move it is. So, PK4 would be e4 if it is white to play, e5 if it is black to play.

The Files: from left to right QR, QN, QB, Q, K, KB, KN and KR, again, always from the point of view of the player who's move it is.

So, QR1 would be a1 if it is white's move, a8 if it is black's move.

Kittysafe

Thanks Rooperi, and everyone... I'm taking the descriptive, playing the moves out in http://www.chesslab.com/PositionSearch.html and pasting the conversion to the PGN file.  Basically, I have to play out every single game... this is going to take awhile.... :)  But they're my grandfather's games, so I am enjoying it.

Kittysafe

Curious about one move:   R-N3 ch

What does that mean?  Move #20 here: http://powers.kittysafe.net/games/game4.jpg


I've worked out up to that point.

gretagarbo

Rg3 check

Kittysafe

Ohhhh!!! Gotcha, thanks.  This is tough and time consuming !
And that makes the next move: Kh8

Ok so far so good.  Then move 21 is Qh6 and Rg8 ?

Kittysafe

I think I screwed up somewhere, can you check this for me?

1. 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. c3 d5 4. Bb5 dxe4 5. Nxe5 Bd7 6. Bxc6 7. O-O Bd6
8. Nxd7 Qxd7 9. Re1 Nf6 10. d3 O-O 11. Bg5 exd3 12. Bxf6 gxf6 13. Re3 Rad8
14. Nd2 Rfe8 15. Ne4 Qf5 16. Nxd6 cxd6 17. Rxd3 Re6 18. Qd2 Rde8 19. Rf1 Re2
20. Rg3+ Kh8 21. Qh6 Rg8 22. Rxg8+ Kxg8 23. Qc1 Qb5 24. Qd1 Qd3 25. Qxd3

http://powers.kittysafe.net/games/game4.jpg

philidorposition
Kittysafe wrote:

I think I screwed up somewhere, can you check this for me?

6. Bxc6 7. O-O


black's 6th move is missing.

Dadwhosmilesnow

Dear KS, 

    I am also fairly proficient in converting games to algebraic notation. If you could just send me a couple of your Grandfathers games I would be honored to convert then and send them back. Also I just started a group for Ohio natives called, The Ohio Group, check it out.

           Sincerely,

                    Bernie

gretagarbo

That looks right. Yeah , it is time consuming and very easy to mess up. What really gets annoying is when you go though a whole game and then at the end , it seems like a move is impossible. Then you have to go through the whole game again to find an error. And sometimes it's not you but it's the notation itself that is wrong.

I gone through many games where the written score was in error.  That can make you pull your hair out. Sometimes you can figure out what move was made and sometimes you can't.

Kittysafe

But black's move 25 makes no sense... RxQ... it's not possible

Any games you can convert, preferably with logical conclusions would be hugely appreciated, all of the games are written here:

This is an open invitation to ANYONE in the chess community who has a moment to spare to convert a game or two :)

 

If you do convert 1, post which # image it is, so others know it's been done.  I can pay anyone willing to take on a sizeable chunk of games.

https://picasaweb.google.com/kpowers101/AverillPowersChessGames2#

gretagarbo

I just read the article on your Grandfather.  I understand why you're excited to do this.

I see that he played and beat Arpad Elo.

I also see that you have a game  score where they played in 1936. I'll do that one.

https://picasaweb.google.com/kpowers101/AverillPowersChessGames2#5609330094786099042

 

Do you know Elo's background?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arpad_Elo

 

...quite an interesting guy.

Dadwhosmilesnow

  I am doing 1-20-36

MrEdCollins
Kittysafe wrote:

But black's move 25 makes no sense... RxQ... it's not possible

That's because you made a slight mistake earlier.  23... Qb5 should be 23...Qg5.

[Event "Annual State Chess Tournament"]
[Site "Racino, Wisconsib"]
[Date "1950.05.06"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Loewy"]
[Black "Powell"]
[Result "0-1"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. c3 d5 4. Bb5 dxe4 5. Nxe5 Bd7 6. Bxc6 bxc6 7. O-O
Bd6 8. Nxd7 Qxd7 9. Re1 Nf6 10. d3 O-O 11. Bg5 exd3 12. Bxf6 gxf6 13. Re3
Rad8 14. Nd2 Rfe8 15. Ne4 Qf5 16. Nxd6 cxd6 17. Rxd3 Re6 18. Qd2 Rde8 19.
Rf1 Re2 20. Rg3+ Kh8 21. Qh6 Rg8 22. Rxg8+ Kxg8 23. Qc1 Qg5 24. Qd1 Qd2 25.
Qxd2 Rxd2 26. Rb1 Kf8 27. g4 Ke7 28. Kg2 Kd7 29. Kf3 d5 30. Ke3 Rc2 31. a3
Kd6 32. h4 Kc5 33. f4 Kc4 34. g5 f5 35. h5 c5 36. Kf3 d4 37. cxd4 cxd4 38.
a4 d3 39. Ke3 d2 40. Rd1 Rxb2 41. Rxd2 Rxd2 42. Kxd2 Kd4 43. a5 Ke4 44. Kc3
Kxf4 0-1

Kittysafe

Thank you!

Btw on that black's 6th move, I forgot to write it, but it doesn't effect the problem I'm experiencing in the game.

Kittysafe

Thanks Ed, you rock!

Meemo

I picked one at random, photos 108-109, Sept 15 1946 vs Rafael Lintron who had the White pieces

1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 b6 3.c4 e6 4.Nc3 Bb7 5.Qc2 c5 6.e4 cxd4 7.Nxd4 Bb4 8.Bd3 Bxc3+ 9.bxc3 d6 10.O-O Nbd7 11.Bg5 h6 12.Bh4 Ne5 13.Bxf6 Qxf6 14.Be2 O-O 15.f4 Nd7 16.Nb5 e5 17.Rad1 exf4 18.Nxd6 Bc6 19.Qd2 g5 20.g3 Qg6 21.gxf4 gxf4+ 22.Kh1 Kh7 23.Qxf4 Nc5 24.Bf3 Rad8 25.Rg1 Qe6 26.Rge1 Rg8 27.e5 Bxf3+ 28.Qxf3 Rg7 29.Ne4 Rxd1 30.Rxd1 Nxe4 31.Qxe4+ f5 32.Qd5 Qg6 33.Rf1 f4 34.e6 f3 35.Qxf3 Qxe6 36.c5 bxc5 37.Qf5+ Qxf5 38.Rxf5 Rb7 39.Kg2 Rb2+ 40.Rf2 Rb7 41.Kf3 a5 42.Ke4 a4 43.Kd5 a3 44.c4 Rb2 45.Rf3 Rxa2 46.h3 Rd2+ 47.Kxc5 a2 48.Ra3 Kg6 49.Kb4 Rd3 50.Rxa2 Rxh3 51.c5 h5 52.c6 Rf3 53.Rg2+ Kh6 54.c7 Rf8 55.Kc5 h4 56.Rd2 Rc8 57.Kc6 Kg5 58.Rd8 Rxc7+ 59.Kxc7 h3 60.Kd6 Kf4 61.Rf8+ Kg3  ½-½

Kittysafe

Meemo THANK YOU!