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raul72
dashkee94 wrote:

raul72

It takes a man to admit he's wrong, and I noticed you couldn't do that.  I've seen two world championships broadcast on US TV--oh, excuse me, you want video of someone sitting rigidly and staring at the board.  You can get that from any still shot.  I tuned in for the moves, and I got them--two world championships on PBS (you have heard of PBS, right?).  I'm fairly sure that Fischer-Spassky '72 is still the highest rated program ever on PBS.  Plus an exhibition game on ESPN, which DID show Kasparov playing--you have heard of ESPN, right?  You need to comb the feces out of your hair, but that would mean you'll have to pull your head out of your anus, and anybody who's seen your posts knows that that won't happen anytime soon.  But as for dummies--in another post on Fischer (who, emotionally, you seem to resemble) you claim Spassky's pre-Reykjavik score against Fischer was 2-0.  It was 3-0, you moron, but I'll bet you won't be man enough to admit you're wrong yet again.  Everyone else from Oregon that I have met could at least count, but you are exceptional.  So now, go ahead, post whatever rude, abusive, trollish responses you have in your bruised soul--abuse seems to be the only real talent you have.  As a raul of thumb your posts are either abusive or ignorant or both, and as such I have but two words for you, and they aren't merry christmas, happy birthday, or good luck.


Listen A-hole, I said there has never been a televised chess championship match in the US. And I was right and you were wrong. The PBS show had the moves sent to a tv studio some where in New York which were displayed on a demonstration board and commented on by local masters. If you call this a championship, televised, match---you are a dummy. And please stop taking money for chess lesson---thats a crime on your part!!!

 Listen numb nuts here is another of your quotes  "you said in another post on Fischer (who, emotionally, you seem to resemble) you claim Spassky's pre-Reykjavik score against Fischer was 2-0. It was 3-0, you moron"

Go back you moron and read my post again---I was referring to the two losses at the beginning of the championship match which any six year old child could have understood. How about this---the next time you read a post of mine---HAVE SOMEONE RUN OUT AND FIND YOU A SIX YEAR OLD CHILD TO EXPLAIN IT TO YOU!!!!!!!

Dashkee, you are a despicable guy. I hope we dont cross paths very often.  Yell

raul72
MDWallace wrote:

I agree with Fablehaft. You dont have to understand most sports to enjoy watching them. With chess one needs to know the rules and have some basic idea of the game. How many of us have tried to explain a game we had just played with our non chessplaying freinds. yes i do have a few. They look at us as if we were aliens from space.


 Agreed, you have to have some knowledge of chess to enjoy watching a high class game. My question is how strong would you have to be to enjoy a game between two grandmasters on tv (even with GMs commenting on the game) ?  Would you need to be a master, expert, A, B, C ???????

Ricardo_Morro

In 1972 I watched the Shelby Lyman commentary on the Fischer-Spassky match on TV. I enjoyed it greatly. In 1972 I was a low class A player rated just over 1800.

raul72
Elona wrote:

Raul, that's the difference between chess, and other sports. You will be hard pushed to find someone that simply 'supports' a chess player. Most Chess fans actually play chess.

Many chess fans are not hugely bothered about the lives and goings of 'chess superstars' and I am sure plenty do not watch chess games. 

For almost any other sport, the opposite happens. Everyone supports a player/team and then some may even play the sport they are interested in.

I feel this is the most beautiful difference between the fans of chess compared to other games. 


 I have no idea of what you are talking about---is this in reference to one of my post ?

Elona
raul72 wrote:
Elona wrote:

Raul, that's the difference between chess, and other sports. You will be hard pushed to find someone that simply 'supports' a chess player. Most Chess fans actually play chess.

Many chess fans are not hugely bothered about the lives and goings of 'chess superstars' and I am sure plenty do not watch chess games. 

For almost any other sport, the opposite happens. Everyone supports a player/team and then some may even play the sport they are interested in.

I feel this is the most beautiful difference between the fans of chess compared to other games. 


 I have no idea of what you are talking about---is this in reference to one of my post ?


Yes, it was in reference to the suggestion that one of the posters was not aware of a particular chess players habits. She did not necessarily follow the culture however she plays chess.

ozzie_c_cobblepot

Personally, I would be happier if the Candidates took more time, as in the past. Once you get your eight candidates, have some time between matches. Not part of the same tournament. Not best of two or four games. Best of 12 is okay, as would be first to 4 wins.

raul72
Elona wrote:
raul72 wrote:
Elona wrote:

Raul, that's the difference between chess, and other sports. You will be hard pushed to find someone that simply 'supports' a chess player. Most Chess fans actually play chess.

Many chess fans are not hugely bothered about the lives and goings of 'chess superstars' and I am sure plenty do not watch chess games. 

For almost any other sport, the opposite happens. Everyone supports a player/team and then some may even play the sport they are interested in.

I feel this is the most beautiful difference between the fans of chess compared to other games. 


 I have no idea of what you are talking about---is this in reference to one of my post ?


Yes, it was in reference to the suggestion that one of the posters was not aware of a particular chess players habits. She did not necessarily follow the culture however she plays chess.


 Quote the passage you are referring to and I would be glad to respond. Smile

dashkee94

raul72

With every post, you just continue to show how bitter and little you really are.  You're not even as entertaining as Haywood--as I said, comb the feces out of your hair.  All you are is a cyberbully, and you don't impress me at all.  What my Navajo brothers would say here--grrshkay, dashkee.  Figure that one out, moron.

Tricklev

dashkee94, if I was a woman, I'd carry your child.

Raul72, blow it out of your ass.

raul72

Tricklev, you old mental midget, good to hear from you again!

I hope you and Dashkee will be very happy together. However, if you are carrying Dashkee's child---I think it will be you who will be blowing something out of your ass!!!!!  OUCH  EmbarassedEmbarassedEmbarassedCoolCoolTongue outTongue out 

raul72
CoolCoolCrydashkee94 wrote:

raul72

With every post, you just continue to show how bitter and little you really are.  You're not even as entertaining as Haywood--as I said, comb the feces out of your hair.  All you are is a cyberbully, and you don't impress me at all.  What my Navajo brothers would say here--grrshkay, dashkee.  Figure that one out, moron.


Say Dashkee, You couldn't make your post a little more raunchy could you. We may still have some mothers and fathers reading the forums.

 

Father to Mother---"Martha, this Indian guy on the chess forum is writing about feces in someone's hair. Is that some kind of Indian slang?"

Mother to Father---"No Fred, when Indians sleep out on the prairie they often get coyote feces in their hair and since they dont have showers---they leave it in !  After several days the aroma begins to attract squaws and sometimes gay braves as well. I read about this one male chessplayer from Sweden who got knocked-up by an Indian !

Father to Mother---My God Martha, this world is going to hell in a hand-basket !    Cry 

karikal

Chess is a poor man's game; we cannot help it. There is no large spectator participation, and so poorly paid !

rongchen

Celebrity chess tournament sounds like a good idea Smile

raul72
rongchen wrote:

Celebrity chess tournament sounds like a good idea 


 We've always had celebrity chess. John wayne, Errol Flynn, Humphrey Bogart, Frank Sinatra, John Lennon, Bill Gates, Bob Dylan, Will Smith, Barbra Streisand and many others.

Hell, Bogart wanted Casablanca to be called Capablanca! He actually played a Capablanca game in the movie!  And thats the rest of the story.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Actually, I made that last part up.  Thats not right, I shouldn't do that. Forgive me God for lying. Innocent

ilikeflags

sport?  that's cute

Kingpatzer

Here's the thing about Chess -- it will never be popular or a cash cow and everyone who wants that reality to change really need to get over it.

I can turn on the Olympics and watch a sport I've never played, have no interest in, and listen to two commentators, one of which just read the rule book this morning, for 20 minutes and I'll be able to follow what's going on well enough to enjoy it. Moreover, the commentators can make it so that I can watch curling for hours and enjoy it.There's stuff happening that creates drama and tension that I, as a person who has never heard of the game until I flipped to the station, can follow.

Chess doesn't have that draw. It's fans are limited entirely to the people who play the game. Moreover, at the highest levels even people who play the game very well often don't have a clue what's going on. How many top level events broadcast on ICC or here or wherever have we seen where the 2700+ crowd are making moves and the 2500 commentators are asking each other what's going on? Meanwhile the 1600s in the peanut gallery are looking at their computers and saying "Oh, that was a blunder if he'd have moved teh rook again Rybka says he'd be up 0.02 pawns!!" Which pretty much tells you they have no clue what's going on either.

The most exciting moments in a chess game is "the long think." How exciting can we make a guy sitting at the table staring into space as his mind races through possibilities we'll never know about while commentators get all excited about speculative lines that no one playing the game would ever consider seriously?

ilikeflags

anytime a forums poster says the words "get over it" i totally just get over it.  like--totally.  it makes me feel so good.

raul72
daw55124 wrote:

Here's the thing about Chess -- it will never be popular or a cash cow and everyone who wants that reality to change really need to get over it.

I can turn on the Olympics and watch a sport I've never played, have no interest in, and listen to two commentators, one of which just read the rule book this morning, for 20 minutes and I'll be able to follow what's going on well enough to enjoy it. Moreover, the commentators can make it so that I can watch curling for hours and enjoy it.There's stuff happening that creates drama and tension that I, as a person who has never heard of the game until I flipped to the station, can follow.

Chess doesn't have that draw. It's fans are limited entirely to the people who play the game. Moreover, at the highest levels even people who play the game very well often don't have a clue what's going on. How many top level events broadcast on ICC or here or wherever have we seen where the 2700+ crowd are making moves and the 2500 commentators are asking each other what's going on? Meanwhile the 1600s in the peanut gallery are looking at their computers and saying "Oh, that was a blunder if he'd have moved teh rook again Rybka says he'd be up 0.02 pawns!!" Which pretty much tells you they have no clue what's going on either.

The most exciting moments in a chess game is "the long think." How exciting can we make a guy sitting at the table staring into space as his mind races through possibilities we'll never know about while commentators get all excited about speculative lines that no one playing the game would ever consider seriously?


 The Long Think--- Ladies and Gentlemen, after 32 minutes of thought grandmaster Aron is reaching out to make his move. You can hear a pin drop. His hand approaches his rook pawn---the roar of the crowd begins to build.  He clutches his rook pawn as the roar of the crowd is deafening. He slides the pawn forward one square  PR3!  The crowd is going wild---this game will be immortal as long as chess is played. 

Nimzovitch has just played "The Immortal Zugzwang Game".

ilikeflags

and we're just supposed to "get over it"

GeordiLaForge
ilikeflags wrote:

and we're just supposed to "get over it"


It's ironic that you get all uppity about people making worthless posts and starting worthless threads in this forum and then you post this sort of drivel in response to someones well thought out and articulate posts.