Prove Me Wrong: The Sicilian Defense is a Boring Opening
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Nov 2, 2021
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#22
If you want an even sharper game, try the Polerio Defense [as Black, not as White].
Sicilian is boring only if Kramnik var. is played.
I used to play the Kan var. of Sicilian - nothing more interesting then seeing opponent struggles to find a helipad for his horses. but White stopped being some kind of sucker, and now plays the Closed Sicilian, which I have hard time facing, so I play French. If you think he'll play Open Sicilian, playing Pin var. is option - ruining his pawn str. and play for winning endgame is very interesting.
Well using logic you are probably wrong, chess book authors may know what they are talking about
Also, in the lower levels openings don't really necessarily characterize the aspect of the game as most times both players don't know what they are actually doing
For example, just because you play 1...c5 doesn't mean you'll get a really exciting game and it's the same for playing 1...e4. You can seek tactical complications, but it doesn't guarantee that you will put them on the board. While you can try to be aggressive or sharp, your opponent can do the opposite
Nov 2, 2021
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#24
I love the Sicilian; it's extremely dynamic. I don't agree at all about the suggestion that it's "boring" (even if the original post wasn't meant to be taken seriously...).
Though I don't play it much, as I don't want to invest years studying the mountain of ultra-sharp theory, especially when it comes to complex lines like those found in the Najdorf, Dragon, and Scheveningen. Daunting.
I'm already spending enough time as it is trying to master the Caro-Kann ...
Nov 2, 2021
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#25
Oh no! A troll post has morphed into an actual discussion of the merits of an opening! I can’t decide who the joke is on: the OP or the people answering seriously. I’m genuinely perplexed.
Nov 2, 2021
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#26
NikkiLikeChikki wrote:
Oh no! A troll post has morphed into an actual discussion of the merits of an opening! I can’t decide who the joke is on: the OP or the people answering seriously. I’m genuinely perplexed.
the joke is on both of us
I oversold the explanation for the rickroll, which led to an actual discussion
Nov 2, 2021
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#27
Ok. I vote boring: both the opening and the rickroll. The opening is boring because I’m too lazy to learn the sharp variations as white and just play the c3. The rickroll is boring because it’s a rickroll.
I usually play the sicilian against E4 as black, usually evolving into the Dragon variation, or the Najdorf.
There's nothing boring about those openings, it's very dynamic, and white gets a lot of options for attack, while black gets many defensive options which can turn into a momentum fuelled offense.
Nov 2, 2021
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#29
MaskedNuisance wrote:
NikkiLikeChikki wrote:
Oh no! A troll post has morphed into an actual discussion of the merits of an opening! I can’t decide who the joke is on: the OP or the people answering seriously. I’m genuinely perplexed.
the joke is on both of us
I oversold the explanation for the rickroll, which led to an actual discussion
By joking around you've started a discussion that actually should be found on a chess site. 
NikkiLikeChikki escreveu:
Oh no! A troll post has morphed into an actual discussion of the merits of an opening! I can’t decide who the joke is on: the OP or the people answering seriously. I’m genuinely perplexed.
People can discuss seriously about anything
You would do better being quiet
Nov 2, 2021
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#31
noImAparrot wrote:
Also Masked, I can see what the link is when I hover over it, try next buddy
the real cringey people aren't the ones who rickroll
they're the ones who expose the rickroll
cring
Nov 2, 2021
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#32
MaskedNuisance wrote:
Pretty much the title says it all. I've been seeing all these books saying that the Sicilian Defense is really exciting and dynamic, however from my personal experience the Sicilian leads to EXTREMELY dull positions. I'm probably playing the wrong lines of the Sicilian as white, but every time I play 1.e4 and am met with 1...c5 I let out a slight groan, "ugh not again! this is why I play e4 to get these exciting games and not positional manuve ring like the positions that result in the QGD, (and besides I always play the QGA and almost immediately follow up with 3...c5, the Gunsberg Defense, which seems to have served me well.). So back to the Sicilian, my question is why do the books praise it as "leading to exciting and unbalanced positions" from what I can tell is that Black locks in his dark-squared bishop early and sometimes follows up with e5, blocking the fienchetto diagonal.
Here's the perfect example of a Sicilian game becoming a very standoffish and dull match:
https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/live/286667617633610
Does anyone else find the Sicilian to be a non-aggressive and boring opening?
No opening can be stereotyped as dull or dynamic. You cannot FORCE dynamic, and you cannot FORCE dull! No matter what opening you play, you will get both dynamic and dull positions.
Take the Petroff. People stereotype it as Dull. Well, if you like Dull, you aren't out of the woods. What happens if White plays the Cochrane Gambit (3.Nxe5 and 4.Nxf7)?
Take the Najdorf Sicilian. People stereotype it as Dynamic. Well, hate to break it to you, but while the English Attack and 6.Bg5 can be exciting, 6.Be2 leads to a fairly positional game!
Take the French Defense. The Winawer Poisoned Pawn is a dynamic hot mess, the Exchange Variation is a symmetrical position that leads often to a pure knight ending. If you play the French Defense, you better know your Knight endings or you are screwed!
Take the Exchange QGD. People often view it as very positional with the Minority attack or Central attack, but what about where White castles Queenside and both sides are storming pawns?
Back to the Sicilian in general. The Smith-Moron Gambit (2.d4) is going to be tactical in nature if Black accepts, and often leads to a positional c3-Sicilian line if Black declines the gambit. As Black, you may want a wild dragon, but instead are stuck in a positional Closed Sicilian.
Suck it up, buttercup! You cannot force dynamic. You cannot force dull. You must be able to deal with both scenarios no matter what opening you play or you will suck at this game for ever!
Nov 2, 2021
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#34
AZA-kun wrote:
noImAparrot wrote:
Also Masked, I can see what the link is when I hover over it, try next buddy
the real cringey people aren't the ones who rickroll
they're the ones who expose the rickroll
cring
yes
unless it's the 2nd page, it goes against the code of honor to do that
Nov 2, 2021
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#35
blueemu wrote:
royalknight101 wrote:
NikkiLikeChikki wrote:
The Sicilian isn't as boring as the Rick Astley meme.
i agree, the tricks are just boring and easy to spot at this point
The only interesting rickroll I've seen in years is this one:
That was beautiful. Imagine all the effort put into that piece of art.
This is a troll post
royalknight101 wrote:
rychessmaster1 wrote:
Not boring but not worth it
well its worth it if your like magnus carlsen or elite level skill
As white, it's nearly impossible for a club level amateur to be prepared for every single open Sicilian.
As black, you won't get to play the open Sicilian nearly enough.
Nov 2, 2021
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#39
Scheveningen would be my cup of tea. Rich strategical play if same side castle.