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Apr 13, 2015
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Hmm. It's just a hypothesis, but could it be possible that they were on these medications because of mental issues? You know, as opposed to it being a result of the medication...
Apr 13, 2015
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#106
marcosite wrote:
trysts wrote:
marcosite wrote:
Arw, C'mon. Like you would want to. Anyone can go to the toilet & cheat, these days.
I'm not even monitoring your bathroom breaks, marcosite
Which is lucky 'cos I pop out alot. Maybe if I come back with an advantage you'll take me seriously
I've played four games since I came back from my chess break and have lost them all, so I take every move quite seriously. I'm even drinking in moderation today
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trysts wrote:
marcosite wrote:
trysts wrote:
marcosite wrote:
Arw, C'mon. Like you would want to. Anyone can go to the toilet & cheat, these days.
I'm not even monitoring your bathroom breaks, marcosite
Which is lucky 'cos I pop out alot. Maybe if I come back with an advantage you'll take me seriously
I've played four games since I came back from my chess break and have lost them all, so I take every move quite seriously. I'm even drinking in moderation today
Excellent trysts. You know this is good news for me.
lisa_zhang_tok wrote:
@fissionfowl.
pharmaceutical companies earn well over 1 trillion a year, with a 22% too 25% compound global growth of prescription usage. "rigid and naive idealism" ? Really ? lol
how about logical commonsense, rational intuition, sensible observation, and a healthy respect for scientific fact and nature.
if you believe pills are a cure for life, you are the idealist ... every realist knows there is no cure... yet thats the promise of all pharma propoganda.
the main mental disorders such as depression are not an illness in my culture any more than love or joy ... at least for the past 6000 years anyway... its a part of life, an emotional part.
but pills do not cure depression any more than foolishness or love or ADHD.. depression is the result of endless variables ... living a life without meaning, poor attitude, low self value, a poor environment, a poor idiotic diet, growing up getting twigs shoved up your bum by your fat sister... or a genetic defect in chemical balance .. one of the great hopes for inpsired creation.
even if you could 'cure' depression with a pill (which you cant) its a silly short sighted objective... you might reduce a possible problem, but you insure the destruction of much more.
pharmaceutical companies wanting to turn everyone into robots have been spending 300 billion a year telling the world they should all be happy and calm ... its nonsense, you should not be happy and calm, any more than a cat should be sweet and kind, or a dolphin calm and cool ... besides, the world is way better with crazy auntys yelling at airport workers, and creepy buggers flashing their jelly bean at little kids .. happy and calm is the death of all hope .. and when we get very good at making pills 100 years from now, you can bet they will have a pill to cure free choice and every other fiber of the human soul.
pharmaceutical companies already have more wealth and power than entire continents ... in a nut shell, the small bandages they might provide are not worth the horrors they guarantee
their 'cures' make up less than 1% of the annual revenues .. the very last thing they sell are cures... they spend more than 1% just defending their legal right to not cure.
Watch Penn and Teller's BS show on Pharmaceuticals and GMOs. Despite saving countless lives these industries get criticized by many closed minded people who don't know what they're talking about.
There are a pill for those things because they seek to address chemical imbalances, which are objectively factual.
"I wonder if the cheating GM in Dubai got the idea from the Kramnik/Topalov match ? "
Kramnik would never, ever cheat! I was disappointed in Topalov for accusing him considering his amazing tournament record. Kramnik defeated Kasparov and Leko without cheating and has played some truly brilliant chess.
Isnt it possible that the mental issues are less serious than kids going on murderous rampages ? Its a case of the " cure " being worse than the " illness " perhaps ? Its known that these psychotropic drugs cause violent psychotic episodes in a very small percentage of the people taking them but they have no way of predicting who/when/where . Even if the % is only 1 % ( I don't know the percentage ) of say 1 million , is that acceptable ? More and more people are being put on these drugs so the violent episodes are only likely to increase ...
Apr 13, 2015
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#112
Reb wrote:
Isnt it possible that the mental issues are less serious than kids going on murderous rampages ? Its a case of the " cure " being worse than the " illness " perhaps ? Its known that these psychotropic drugs cause violent psychotic episodes in a very small percentage of the people taking them but they have no way of predicting who/when/where . Even if the % is only 1 % ( I don't know the percentage ) of say 1 million , is that acceptable ? More and more people are being put on these drugs so the violent episodes are only likely to increase ...
I have looked extensively into this. In every single case I know of, the issues were far deeper than medication and usually went back into childhood. (with the possible exception of the Columbine shooters) Read Elliot Rodger's manifesto sometime.
If the medications do cause them to go on murderous rampages, I'm quite certain that it, at most, speeds up a foregone conclusion. Maybe if it keeps happening, people will learn to stop mistreating each other and causing these events to happen, but I seriously doubt that.
Vehicle related deaths are more frequent, why not ban them? To impose regulations on these life saving companies is to infringe upon the individual rights and property rights over the companies. A person is guided by their reason and seeking reasonable happiness is the highest moral pursuit. Man should not sacrifice himself to others nor sacrifice others to himself.
Not all of those 10,000 people will want to kill and it would be the employees' faults for not doing enough quality control on the drugs. Companies in their pursuit of profit will improve the world since competitors will iron out the flaws that make the medicines have a tiny risk of psychotic episodes.
I went to school in the 60s , we didnt have any school shootings that I recall but kids had plenty of acces to guns where I grew up . Maybe noone was mistreated back then ? I dont recall any kids being on psychotropic drugs back then though either . Big Pharma has very deep pockets so they will fight to keep any connection being made between their products and murderous rampages , this is certain . They also have plenty of money=power to buy off the proper people . Here is an interesting read concerning this topic : http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/14655-prescription-for-murder
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Obviously, I was being ironical. Please try and keep up..
The term that you are fumbling for is ironic, 'obviously I was being ironic', and no it was far from obvious.
sirrichardburton wrote:
Well Grandmaster Gaioz Nigalidze just got caught using a chess program on his smartphone and is being banned for 20 years so at least that proves some grandmasters are stupid (as well as unethical).
20 years ban? wow thats sending out a message, thats a life ban.
...simple as that. Just 'cos you play chess, it don't be making you clever....
Apr 13, 2015
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#119
sirrichardburton wrote:
Well Grandmaster Gaioz Nigalidze just got caught using a chess program on his smartphone and is being banned for 20 years so at least that proves some grandmasters are stupid (as well as unethical).
Hmm, Chessbase reported that it would be a three-year ban if found guilty, and a 15-year ban for a repeat offense.
I wonder if the cheating GM in Dubai got the idea from the Kramnik/Topalov match ?