Queen/Two Rooks

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ErrantDeeds

The specifics of a position notwithstanding, what's generally considered stronger, a Queen or two Rooks?

ilikeflags

queen is 9 points.  two rooks are 10.

comradedew

Queen

ilikeflags

i think more often than not, great players will give up their queen for 2 rooks.

Pat_Zerr

Often it's easier to checkmate with two rooks than it is one queen.

Bishop-Brask

In a recent game my opponent gave his two rooks for my queen... ironically, in the endgame, I managed to make a classic two rook mate with his king against the board edge Smile

ilikeflags

that's the idea.  not sure there's irony in it.

Bishop-Brask

He he, well I'm sure that my opponent had no such idea when he voluntarily initiated the trade...

Dragec
There is no answer. It all depends on a position, much like bishop vs. knight.
Kytan
ErrantDeeds wrote:

The specifics of a position notwithstanding, what's generally considered stronger, a Queen or two Rooks?


The more I play chess, the more I discover that there IS no such thing as "position nonwithstanding".  In my experience, a queen vs. two rooks depends entirely on the position.

Ziryab

Forget the point-value system. This imbalance depends entirely on the position. One queen may be easier to handle than two rooks, but two rooks well coordinated are powerful.

I remember watching this game unfold while it took place. Kramnik offered the whole world instruction in handling the rooks. The endgame starts at move 37.

 

 

jonkingston

I am glad i made you think.

ilikeflags
i still say in general, 2 rooks over a queen.