http://www.chess.com/news/nigalidze-verdict-3-year-ban-gm-title-stripped-4875
"Nigalidze Verdict: 3-Year Ban, GM Title Stripped"
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Jan 2, 2016
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I think that the ban and stripped title are appropriate.
Lifetime bans for first offenses are ridiculous. Keep in mind that they aren't "just" risking a three year suspension, but most likely the loss of teaching/coaching opportunities as well, etc.
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Since it's textbook fraud, I imagine if they won 5 figures through cheating they'd lose the money plus whatever criminal penalties apply. So a 3 year chess ban would be the least of their worries I'd imagine.
3 years does seem a little short though.
why banned ?
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Cell phone in toilet stall haha people actually do that??? I didn't think people would actually do that...
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I can't wait until we get brain implants that can download straight from the cloud.
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neverherebefore wrote:
cell phone in toilet stall
Well, an ipod with a chess app. Pretty close though.
What I find funny is people (apparently) leave their game on the device. Sure it saves time, but if anyone finds it you have no way to deny it's yours.
If that wasn't enough, apparently he was also logged in to a social networking site.
I can understand cheating at lower/amateur levels, I can understand online cheating, cheating for money prizes etc. But a titled player? A player with a GM title?! Must've started a long time ago, I don't believe you can get there and then one day decide "ok, I'll cheat tomorrow!".
Jan 2, 2016
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I agree that adults, a GM especially, caught cheating warrants a lifetime ban. The message needs to be zero tolerance to confirmed cases of cheating.
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MasterMatthew52 wrote:
So how'd they catch him? did someone look under the stall xD
Essentially yes. He wrapped it in toilet paper and hid it.
But "running" to the bathroom after each move was too suspicious to ignore apparently (lol). So when he left, the director went in and searched.
http://www.chess.com/news/grandmaster-caught-cheating-banned-from-dubai-open-2319
Jan 2, 2016
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Candidate35 wrote:
I agree that adults, a GM especially, caught cheating warrants a lifetime ban. The message needs to be zero tolerance to confirmed cases of cheating.
Well they did ban him for 3 years AND he's no longer a master... If he does come back in 3 years he's gonna have a hella hard time playing at that high of a rating!
Jan 2, 2016
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He can hustle games in Washington Square Park so long as he is able to check his cell phone occasionally.
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DrSpudnik wrote:
He can hustle games in Washington Square Park so long as he is able to check his cell phone occasionally.
lol
Jan 2, 2016
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0110001101101000 wrote:
DrSpudnik wrote:
He can hustle games in Washington Square Park so long as he is able to check his cell phone occasionally.
lol
Probably will too
Jan 2, 2016
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MasterMatthew52 wrote:
As Garrison Cootes says, "Not. Good. Enough."
Candidate35 wrote:
I agree that adults, a GM especially, caught cheating warrants a lifetime ban. The message needs to be zero tolerance to confirmed cases of cheating.
Well they did ban him for 3 years AND he's no longer a master... If he does come back in 3 years he's gonna have a hella hard time playing at that high of a rating!
Jan 2, 2016
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Candidate35 wrote:
MasterMatthew52 wrote:
Candidate35 wrote:
I agree that adults, a GM especially, caught cheating warrants a lifetime ban. The message needs to be zero tolerance to confirmed cases of cheating.
Well they did ban him for 3 years AND he's no longer a master... If he does come back in 3 years he's gonna have a hella hard time playing at that high of a rating!
As Garrison Cootes says, "Not. Good. Enough."
Watch him join the USCF and become an NM
No way. This should have been a lifetime ban, period. One and done at this level of chess. If you want to limit the penalty to suspension for some kid who cheated in a local scholastic tournament, great.
FIDE is sending the message that GMs can go ahead and try to cheat, and all they risk is a 3-year suspension which weighs pretty nicely vs. the chance to cheat their way to a 5-figure prize that beats their annual salary in a few days.