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yeah dude you're out of luck.  haha  mouse slip.... 

people slip

bear slip

MC Hammer slip

my suggestion--don't let your "mouse" slip. 

A mouse slip is similar to when you accidentally touch another piece (usually the king) while reaching for another piece in OTB.  In this case the arbiter does have the discretion to not force you to move the king.

 

"It doesn't take much dexterity to move a chess piece without hitting other ones with your fingers along the way...."

A mouse slip isn't really the same as brushing a piece in my opinion. In OTB play intent is usually pretty obvious and online even if you say it was a mouse slip it could just very well be a blunder. Especially in blitz.

There is a section in the USCF rulebook that talks about accidentally touching a piece and not meeting the defintion of touch-move. I don't have that in front of me so I don't know how it would be ruled if the opponent tried to force the claim and either truly believes the piece was touched with the intention to move it or lies and says that it was touched in that manner. I do believe, barring eyewitness accounts, that it is up to the discretion of the TD.

Well, it's not meant to be a contest of dexterity. If the arbitrator takes one look and can see that it was obviously accidental, then not forcing you is probably the right result. If there's any doubt, then you move it.

This is really not much different than the discretion referees exercise in any physical sport.

Yes; FIDE and USCF are clear on this that the touch must be intentional. If you rest your fingers on a piece in thought, that's intentional. If you nick a piece on your way to another piece (say, in a time scramble), then it's not intentional.

I clipped my king with my sleeve and knocked him over while making my move in an OTB tournament last night. My opponent did not insist that I move my king or resign. He then proceeded to beat me fair and square and I resigned of my own volition. I believe this to be a typical case.

Moving a peice is a two step manoeuvre. Step 1. Picking the peice up and placing it on the square you want to go to then Step 2. Releasing the peice on the square you want it to go to. Jeddison had step1 ok but step two was the problem because she states that it was a mouse slip. Unless her pointer was over the square where her Queen eventually landed, she did not need to release the Queen. If u look carefully at the game in question, to capture her opponents black Queen, you needed to move up and to the right, yet her Queen landed to the right meaning that there was no upward movement. If there was, her Queen should have landed, thru a mouse slip, one square up. Therefore, the only conclusion is that Jeddison did not intend to capture the black Queen but to refuse the exchange by moving away from danger and in her hurry to move away, Jeddison blundered. If Jeddison was playing an opponent OTB and did that same move ( unless her opponent is as fair as Jeddison is and has the same moral back bone agreeing to Jeddison taking back her move) then there is no way that her plea would be considered legal and her opponent has every right to take advantage of Jeddison's blunder.

Hmm, that is unfair, but it's just one game. Try not to become a "monster", and try not to slip on your mouse.

When you have a mouse slip while playing on-line poker, that's worth crying over.

I have read a nice post on a mouse slips here, I can 't fidnt it now to honor the originator, but I'll quote it (as far as I can remember): "I had a thousand brain slips here and only several mouse slips" . 

So, get used to it, or don't use drag and drop, it will cost you some time though.

mouse-slips (post #11).

Jedisson:

"He didn't accept draw" - of course. He did not want to lose rating points because of your mouse slip.

"or give the pawn back"- he probably did not want that position just because your mouse slip. Material is not the only thing.

"how pathetic is it to take advantage of your opponents mouse slipping?" - What do you want him to do? Do you want him to trade Queens after your mouse slip? Nonsense, as after you take the pawn, trading is not the same as before! Do you want him to not to take your Queen? Also nonsense, as the position reached would be ridiculous.

After a move has been played there is no chance to go back. These are the rules.

So: "Maybe thats why I'm only 1650. I'm not a cheater. I try to be fair." - I hope you are not assuming that you need to cheat to have higher ratings. Also, you should check what "to cheat" means: to cheat is to do something against the rules; to take advantage of an opponent's mistake (even a mouse slip) is not against the rules, so it is not cheating.

I suggest you to get used to it: this is online chess and mouse slips occur sometimes, internet connection dies sometimes, computer freezes sometimes... And after all, I sugget you to try to be too fair: you just do not know your opponent, so how can you trust him?

Anyway, good luck in your future games!

I think the real error is caring so much about one game that both players feel they have to do one thing or another so that they don't lose rating points.

For one thing, a rating is a statistical average.  If you really deserve a higher rating, it will happen.  If you really deserve a lower rating, that will happen, too.  More importantly, people get too wrapped up in it. 

For what it's worth, if I stumble into a win because of an obvious mouse slip, I would offer the draw.  If someone didn't do that for me, I wouldn't care.  It's just a game.  In an OTB game, I would definitely give the player the benefit of the doubt if he claimed to have made an accidental move.  Unless I had strong reason to believe he was trying to pull a fast one, I would let him make the move he intended.

As for OTB games, the rule is quite clear that an incidental touch does not compel the player to make a move with the touched piece.  However, if the touch could reasonably be considered intentional, the TD is to assume that it was intentional, and force the player to make the move.  The examples given in the rulebook are brushing the top of a king while reaching for another piece, or using one's pinky to move a piece toward the center of the square without saying "j'adoube".  In such cases, the TD is to assume that the touch was not deliberate and that the touch move rule is not invoked.  On the other hand, if the piece is grabbed with the fingers, but then the opponent claims it was his attention to adjust the piece, the TD is not to believe him, and instead force him to make a move with the piece.

Here's what I always do:

If an opponents makes a mouse slip, then I don't let him take it back. Why? Well, cause I know it might happen to me in the future. In essence things should even out (win off a mouse slip, lose from a mouse slip), but as in your case it doesn't even out, which is obviously a problem on your end.

So, what am I getting at? Ok, look, online play is full of ruthless jerks, but it works because everyone is a jerk, and is thus the status quo. But then you come along asking for take-backs and trying to be all noble about things, and it messes the entire system up. Do you know what happens? You're the minority, that's what. Everyone's jerkiness is excused cause everyone is doing it, you're the one causing the distortion, and thus in essence you are the real jerk.

So, yeah. Just do what I do and assume everyone online is a jerk. That doesn't mean you can't make friends with them, or that they aren't cool people. Hell, 95% of my friends are probably jerks in some way shape or form, but it's how I deal with it that keeps the peace. And if you disagree, you're a jerk.

(Fun Fact: every "jerk" in my post was suppose to be "a-hole" but I didn't want it to be too offensive. Cause I'm cool like that.)