Racism on live chess

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LoekBergman

I could have known. Never walk on the path of religion without dispute. :-)

I am originally a catholic, I am not a protestant. Yes, the pope is the successor of Peter, but most important in this little post: his words are supposed to be true. I did not say he is the sole responsible, I will explain what I tried to say in some more detail.

The pope did abolish the hell from catholic religion and since then is there no more idea of a hell in roman-catholicism. The way the pope describes you have to believe, is how you have to believe. He shows the way how to believe. That is why every roman-catholic has a relationship with Christ via the pope, because you have to do it his way - or step out of the church. That submission is an essential part of the roman catholic religion. It is very crucial for understanding the roman catholic religion, because it shows that the pope is an 'instrument' to help the catholic to have the proper attitude towards God. 'Learn it from the experts' could you say.

SPARTANEMESIS
Moses2792796 wrote:
SPARTANEMESIS wrote:
Moses2792796 wrote:

I think all liberals are racist for not liking Herman Cain (who I would have supported if I was American)...but seriously, I really don't get the endless discussions of racism by Americans, it's practically ancient history now.

If racism was ancient history there would be no KKK (there are other indications of racism as well).  However there is an organization of people who call themselves white knights and they are organized.  They even have a headquarters.

These groups are extremely small minorities and almost universally despised and ridiculed, they do not make up a more significant portion of the population than say alien hunters and people who believe that the royal family are reptilians.

Are these examples also "practically ancient history" in your opinion?  

TheGrobe

Covering some pretty broad ground in this thread. Shall we move on to global warming? Creationism vs. evolution?

bigpoison

Gimmie a break.  Saying that racism is no longer an issue is extremely naive.  Almost as naive as believing in evolution.

ivandh

I believe obfuscation was rather the intent.

bigpoison

Inmates By Race (USA)

White: 129,682 (59.5 %)
Black: 80,811 (37.1 %)
Native American: 3,996 (1.8 %)
Asian: 3,408 (1.6 %)

Population by race (USA)

White persons, percent definition and source info White persons, percent, 2011 (a) 78.1%
Black persons, percent definition and source info Black persons, percent, 2011 (a) 13.1%
American Indian and Alaska Native persons, percent definition and source info American Indian and Alaska Native persons, percent, 2011 (a) 1.2%
Asian persons, percent definition and source info Asian persons, percent, 2011 (a) 5.0%
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander persons, percent definition and source info Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander persons, percent, 2011 (a) 0.2%
Persons reporting two or more races, percent definition and source info Persons reporting two or more races, percent, 2011 2.3%
Persons of Hispanic or Latino Origin, percent definition and source info Persons of Hispanic or Latino Origin, percent, 2011 (b) 16.7%
White persons not Hispanic, percent definition and source info White persons not Hispanic, percent, 2011 63.4%

That second point...that was a joke, dude.

Ziryab
bigpoison wrote:

Gimmie a break.  Saying that racism is no longer an issue is extremely naive.  Almost as naive as believing in evolution.

Right. Sorta like believing the sky is blue or that bears go poo in the woods.

TheGrobe

Very ticky bigpoison, but I see through the trap. Based on those numbers I'm forced to believe that either:

A) The law isn't enforced equitably and racism is systemic

B) Cultural factors result in disproportionate representation of the races among criminals, meaning racism is systemic

C) There's a genetic predisposition to criminal activity, and I'm the racist.

I choose to believe D), that the surveyors were in fact unable to see race and screwed up the numbers as a result.

Gilded_Candlelight

Racism, or prejudice of skin color and culture is a huge issue. It is a perfectly reasonable statement to say that the huge leaps and bounds made by modern popular thinking make the issue appear relatively small, that is, in relation to when cultures (race is a genetically misused term) viewed the eradication and oppression of other cultures to be the dominant strategy. But ( I will start my sentences with conjunctions if I please : p ) , as long as humans are born innately ignorant there is a chance of racism and considering the level of ignorance in the world rest assured the racism is just seething beneath the surface. Presenting itself in new clothes if you will. Thats just the entropic nature of the universe. Awareness begets ignorance and ignorance begets prejudice. On the upside humans are animals and animals have a great counter to prejudice. Whenever animals feel external pressures to survive they adapt as a population. The ones that dont adapt, dont survive. So if you think about it, logically, the racist are making a huge mistake. They actively apply external pressure and the population becomes stronger. Which is not only counter intuitive to the result the racist wish, but also  you have to remember that no credible geneticist will talk about race, so they are basically subscribing their time to a fantasy. The variance between populations was low to begin with, incredibly impermanent, and now with globalization hardly exist. So in the sense that race does not exist, racism does not exist, but in the sense of prejudice based on skin color or culture, that exist. 

bigpoison

E.  Tell your statistics to shut up.

bigpoison

Ha!  Dude, you're a riot!

Why do you suppose that black Americans are "on average much lower in the socio-economic scale."

I could have blah blahed about that and turned out a 'looby post; instead, I posted some statistics.  Ya' got one, use it.

netzach
Moses2792796 wrote:
 

Criminal activity is rife in third-world countries too, regardless of their racial makeup.

You have got to be kidding with that comment right?

bigpoison

So...C it is.

Got it.

AlCzervik

I like white pieces. Oh, wait, am I in the wrong topic?

netzach
Moses2792796 wrote:
netzach wrote:
Moses2792796 wrote:
 

Criminal activity is rife in third-world countries too, regardless of their racial makeup.

You have got to be kidding with that comment right?

Why?

How can you possibly make such a bold sweeping allegation?

There are numerous countries that may be considered third world with miniscule crime and murder rates compared to the US. (and other ''civilised'' countries)

bigpoison

Glaswegians are just a bunch of criminals.  The lot of 'em.

netzach

According to Moses Glasgow may be third-world :)

AlCzervik

netzach

Nevertheless you cannot generalise. Below the US (and others) are numerous countries with abject poverty that have much less crime.

netzach
Moses2792796 wrote:
Are you really disputing the fact that poverty and crime are correlated?  Look up a list of countries by murder rate and you will find the US way down the list behind a bunch of poorer countries.  Obviously there are other factors, like South American countries tend to have disproportionately high murder rates because of the drug trade, however few of them would be considered 'first-world' countries by any conventional measure.

People vastly overstate things like murder and crime rates in the US compared to other nations.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_wit_fir-crime-murders-with-firearms

(I looked up a list)

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