Ratings Are Deceiving

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Hello all,

I thought it would be nice to share a view on ratings I have had for a while. I feel that they are honestly deceiving, and hinder one's progress in chess. For example, when one plays a lower rated player in a tournament, he is often pressurized to win, and may not play his best due to that stress. On the other hand, he may underestimate his opponent and play poorly and lose. This has happened quite often in the tournaments I go to. On the other hand, when people play others rated much higher than me, they do not play my best, as they feel that they do not stand much of a chance. I feel that this type of thinking is bad, and that one should simply think extensively and play his best regardless of what his opponent's rating is. I adopted this strategy and it has helped me in recent tournaments.

Rohan

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kasirohan wrote:

.....that one should simply think extensively and play his best regardless of what his opponent's rating is. I adopted this strategy and it has helped me in recent tournaments....

 

You've reinvented the wheel. It is commonly known that you should play the board, not the opponent and their rating.

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good point 

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any other opinions?

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It is easier said than done. The psychological aspects of chess have a big impact on the outcome of each game.

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I have never played a tournament. The only rating I have got is in chess.com

But I do come under pressure when I see a higher rated player is up against me. I do blunder more than usual and much to my dismay, I see my opponent winning riding on those blunders. I am yet to shed my inhibitions.

Also, one more point here. In my rating range of live standard 1250-1400, I often come across a hell lot of cheaters. You can say they are one because they disconnect and then reconnect and start playing flawless moves. Really that time I lose my mind and I blunder blunder blunder (not that I have any chance against them). So yeah, as LesuhAn pointed out, it is easier said than done. 

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well when u play in tournaments u wont come across cheaters.. hmm even for me psychological aspects did have a strong impact until recently. even now, they affect me a little. one way, if ur playing in tournaments, is to look at the opponents rating after the game. i am sure that would help, and some ppl follow that

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I wish I could hide the rating of my opponents (and even me, if that is required) on chess.com live play screen.

Hey guys ... hullo, Chess.com staff, are you there??

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As with most anything in life, it is more beneficial to try and change yourself rather than others(in this case, Chess.com to have the option to hide ratings).

If you can learn to overcome this hurdle, you will be a better person for it. Not just in chess.

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You have talked about the psychology of chess and actually any 1 vs 1 sport.

Whereas mathematically, ratings themselves should really only reflect a players ability to find stronger moves and plans and largely, the ability (with some variability which is why upsets occur in all 1v1 sports) to win a game.

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well I just saw someone with a bullet rating of 1650ish and saw that her average opponent was rated 1000ish.  Mysteriously as you add time to the clock her rating dissipates.  So idk.  Some people are clock mongrals I guess, others like me like to think and play the best move.  Tournament chess is one thing, speed chess I guess is a whole other topic.  I just wonder how someone could have a bullet rating that high and be lowsy at online chess, I thought the better you are at chess in general the better you could be at bullet, but apparently that is not always so.  I was curious so I looked at her games and noticed a lot of blunders on both sides.  I really don't understand how someone can make that many blunders in one minute, and when I did make thoughtless moves in bullet in the past I often got myself checkmated or lost on time anyway.

In conclusion:

I suck at speed chess, especially bullet.

AND

Play people either at your rating or a little higher than you, and don't just play people at 1000ish when you are 1600ish, or your rating is dirt.

AND

Apparently some people have acheived Godspeed in chess.com when playing bullet...

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YEs. Speed chess is a much different game than slower time controls chess.

One thing I've seen is that in speed chess, some people seem to go far by just making what otherwise would be unsound moves because it takes time off the opponents clock while they are trying to figure out why the move was made.

To me, playing blitz is just one long tactical puzzle, and I treat it as such. I just spend my time looking for tactical ideas and avoiding blundering. Not much time for anything else.

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kleelof: No harm with options.

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mirasma wrote:

kleelof: No harm with options.

I think you missed the point.

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No. I didn't. This line was just the tip of the iceberg I wrote for you. Then deleted the rest. Leave it at that.

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Daybreak57 wrote:

well I just saw someone with a bullet rating of 1650ish and saw that her average opponent was rated 1000ish.  Mysteriously as you add time to the clock her rating dissipates.  So idk.  Some people are clock mongrals I guess, others like me like to think and play the best move.  Tournament chess is one thing, speed chess I guess is a whole other topic.  I just wonder how someone could have a bullet rating that high and be lowsy at online chess, I thought the better you are at chess in general the better you could be at bullet, but apparently that is not always so.  I was curious so I looked at her games and noticed a lot of blunders on both sides.  I really don't understand how someone can make that many blunders in one minute, and when I did make thoughtless moves in bullet in the past I often got myself checkmated or lost on time anyway.

In conclusion:

I suck at speed chess, especially bullet.

AND

Play people either at your rating or a little higher than you, and don't just play people at 1000ish when you are 1600ish, or your rating is dirt.

AND

Apparently some people have acheived Godspeed in chess.com when playing bullet...

 

If you're a good chess player you will be able to adapt to bullet/blitz to a certain extent, but not the other way around. Being able to win a hundred 1 minute games in a row might not help you out in a 90 minute game, but being able to win a hundred 90 minute games in a row will give you skills that you can use in bullet/blitz. 

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hmm good points... i feel that bullet chess honestly degrades ur skills, as u make so many random moves.. if u play too many bullet, u might worsen ur ability to form plans

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Ratings just helps us see how strong our opponents can be (due to the fact that they win more games as they rating is high) but that doesn't necessarily means that if you were paired against lower rated player means your going to win the game and vice versa. Much more important to focus on the games rather than ratings. 

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kasirohan wrote:

hmm good points... i feel that bullet chess honestly degrades ur skills, as u make so many random moves.. if u play too many bullet, u might worsen ur ability to form plans

Agreed. Though bullet chess helps us think (calculate) fast on time pressure but too much of it might cause us to play impulsively and otherwise can affect our games in the long run.

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I've played people around my rating for the whole time I've been on this site and my speed chess average opponents' ratings are around 1260.

Play the board, not the player.