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Untitled players on chess.com need not be untitled in the real world.

pathfinder416

In any rating pool, the top ratings will inflate steadily over time (with or without cheating). Anomalies occur too, such as the recent cheater purge, which saw some non-banned players' ratings soar 300+ points. Time forfeits are common in online chess (and inflate ratings), but are comparatively rare in OTB or serious CC. The tails of a rating distribution will stretch; it's a natural tendency.

PrawnEatsPrawn

Thomas,

 

I'm sorry that your account was closed. I suppose that I'll have to resign our unrated centaur game now.

 

http://www.chess.com/echess/game.html?id=46674743

 

You tell a convincing tale of innocence but Chess.com seems to have adjudged you differently. I don't know what else to say.

 

All the breast

 

Prawn.

thomaszwijsen3

Thanks Prawn ! To be honest it's strange that they don't understand that i don't need to defend myself . I can make an alias in a minute with a different ip if i wanted but i didn't not want to that

people who want to cheat will always do , i was honest and was punished for that but then they shouldn't be suprised if the lawyer knocks at their door ;-)

mixtli111

Wow, is this guy for real?

 

Anyway, when I play online (I use fics for that), I never use an engine or a book..  but I think it'd be nice to have an option for 'open book' games, where both players agree in advance that they can use their opening books.  I think it would be a nice pedagogical tool to help people memorize opening lines.

Cystem_Phailure
thomaszwijsen3 wrote:

they shouldn't be suprised if the lawyer knocks at their door ;-)


What a moron! Cool

thomaszwijsen3

actually Cystem Phailure made it clear to me

"The deal between chess.com and facebook brought in lots of good members, but you're a perfect example of some of the trash that joined."

they used me and many people on facebook to get paying members on this site and now that they have accomplished this they throw thousands of members out . It's all about money . I am really shocked that they dare to talk about ethics. They leave all the posts which are in favour of there opinion here and the post who are not in there way of thinking they just remove. I thought freedom of speach was one of the fundementals in the USA apperently not on chess.com :-(

Cystem_Phailure

HAW HAW HAW-- I hope they do keep you around, even if you are a lying cheater.  You're hilarious!  Cool

thomaszwijsen3

don't worry i will always be around , regards Neil Caffrey ;-)

Pat_Zerr

I love how people like to go the "I'm going to get my lawyer" route.  It should also be noted that people who threaten to sue rarely go through with it.  At any rate, you'd lose anyway because the TOS are clearly spelled out.

thomaszwijsen3

anyway i stated my case , it was interesting to see the reactions , there were positive reactions , there were negative reactions , there were reactions neither good or bad ....

I said what i wanted to say and if people don't believe me that's there problem...

and now i close my account

Cystem_Phailure
thomaszwijsen3 wrote:

and now i close my account


What a ham!  Cool

PrawnEatsPrawn
Cystem_Phailure wrote:
thomaszwijsen3 wrote:

and now i close my account


What a ham!  


 

Reminds me of this scene:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOW4QiOD-oc

SilverJay

i thinnk its because you start at 1200.

fireballz
PrawnEatsPrawn wrote:

You can look up an individual's TT record:

 

 


 yeah, well thanks for your honesty in showing everyone my statistics, now show us yours:D

Chesserroo2
MrFrenchy wrote:

I think some players play far above their OTB rating on chess.com through extensive use of the analyze feature, and using game databases to copy upper level grandmasters.

It seems likely that many of the titled players on chess.com play as they would OTB, while many players on chess.com put much greater amounts of time/research into determining their moves.

(I also think cheating can be a bit rampant, it would be almost impossible to catch people using engines on say their smart phones to analyze their games and pick moves)


Well that explains it right there;

The bell curve on this site includes the "turn based" ratings. I'd like to see the bell curve of live chess ratings. I bet it does not extend so high.

Like I said many time before: when I see someone's rating, I instantly lose respect for it when I hover over their profile and it says, "turn based".

Cystem_Phailure
AaronSolt wrote:

The bell curve on this site includes the "turn based" ratings. I'd like to see the bell curve of live chess ratings. I bet it does not extend so high.

Like I said many time before: when I see someone's rating, I instantly lose respect for it when I hover over their profile and it says, "turn based".


So look at them.   There are data curves shown for 5 different game categories.  Considering there are hundreds of thousands of people in each category I'm not sure what you think you learn from examining the fringe regions of the curve (or of any true bell curve at all, for that matter), but there are data to be looked at.  The Turn-based and Bullet categories have almost equal numbers of participants.  The current figures show:

Turn-based participants:  230869
Average rating:  1388
People with rating >2450:  339

Live Bullet participants:  225438
Average rating:  1299:
People with rating >2450:  332 

You do understand that all the ratings within a category include only games played of that type, right?  Why would you expect them to be equivalent?

As for your respect, who cares what some stuffed-shirt thinks no matter how many times he insists on saying it?

punkmonkZ

Good Morning All., on a personal note  here I am  at 6:20am at a coffee shop., why? because i could not sleep., i got up at approx 5:45am with the realization im going to attemt to  answer my own questions? this is not what i expected to do., i thought i would appeal to my own ignorance ., and learn something in the process, i can tell you this., it  is a challange ., the excitement and the discomfort of externalizing ones thoughts., its like giving birthSurprised., so i will be posting when it happensCool

p1.

PrawnEatsPrawn
fireballz wrote:
PrawnEatsPrawn wrote:

You can look up an individual's TT record:

 

 


 yeah, well thanks for your honesty in showing everyone my statistics, now show us yours:D


 

Here you go:

 

 

I don't bother with TT very often because I find it too annoying. Besides, tactics are not something I struggle with.

punkmonkZ

ok ...there is no question that playing programs are....strongUndecided., well at least have very very high ratings., and who ever teams up with it will reflect that., and we have already heard the negative side of things...

but what about the group of players which are untitled  and who do have these ratings.,and play within the rules?

what are their methods?

i want to brainstorm possible ways to give some logic to that outcome.

1. is  the use of playing sofware permited in pre-game preparations.,? if it is.,!  then having lets say 3 days to examine opponents games and allow the program to do analysis of them and then make notes would be significant!

2.playing 1 game only would reduce the research difficulties.

3.databases/books not only carry information on the game ., but also analysis!., which means  assistance during the game., Fischer said; classical chess is dead!., he used Capablanca as an example ., if Capa played someone with todays technology., he was not confident about Capas chances., because not only is there is information how the position should be played., but also how it should not be played...

4 OTB play demands knowledge from preparation and we see how non-titled players use the tools to neutrilize the playing field.

5.OTB is touch move., on chess.com-analysis board- players can take their moves back., reduces Calculation problems!

6.time pressure., no prob., lets say 3 days per move.

ok a dedicated player puts in a lot of time and effort  ., such a person is a tough opponent! what to do?

1. the difficulty as i see it  for a non-titled player would be in the evaluation of resulting positions., and the changes in Aims.

2.play openings that  usually  you do not play., meaning they  would  not be in a database or in chess.com history., that would remove pre-game preparation.

3.i would think a titled player would not want to put in so much energy outside OTB

4.also most probably as a rule they prefer not to play correspondance., the rewards and temperment might not  be suitable.

so as  i can see it... a lot of time and energy  is invested., does it justify the super high rating range? Undecided...lets say thats a different questionCool

p2Tongue out