People used to do that crap all the time and then hide the move with their pen but it became disallowed.
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Apr 14, 2017
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#2
Not anymore!
People used to do that crap all the time and then hide the move with their pen but it became disallowed.
People used to do that crap all the time and then hide the move with their pen but it became disallowed.
Apr 14, 2017
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#5
Technically in USCF it's not allowed anymore.
But so many people are used to it that TDs are allowed to use an alternate rule that allows it to be written before the move is made, and this rule change doesn't even have to be posted as I recall.
Apr 14, 2017
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#6
Rule 15A
. . . The player must first make the move, and then record it . . .
TD tip for this rule:
While the rule's wording indicates making the move first . . . it is a huge change for many players. TDs are advised to first (and possibly second and third) issue warnings to players that do not comply with this revised rule before enforcing any time penalties . . .
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Although it's not so new now... the 6th edition came out in 2014.
Apr 14, 2017
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#8
urk wrote:
It's so annoying.
Fischer called those players cheaters and I agree.
Fischer called those players cheaters and I agree.
Wasn't there a Fischer story where he drew Tal and after the game Tal asked why he didn't play a certain move, and Fischer's reply was "you laughed when I wrote it down."
Apr 14, 2017
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#9
That's true.
Fischer must have changed his mind about the practice after that game. He didn't want the Soviets laughing at him.
Fischer must have changed his mind about the practice after that game. He didn't want the Soviets laughing at him.
Apr 14, 2017
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#10
The_Chin_Of_Quinn wrote:
Rule 15A
. . . The player must first make the move, and then record it . . .
TD tip for this rule:
While the rule's wording indicates making the move first . . . it is a huge change for many players. TDs are advised to first (and possibly second and third) issue warnings to players that do not comply with this revised rule before enforcing any time penalties . . .
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Although it's not so new now... the 6th edition came out in 2014.
I don't have the book in front of me but there is the alternate/ optional allowance you mention, in post 6, that can be used by the TD to allow it without warning or penalty or announcing it in advance.
Apr 17, 2017
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#12
Why would a TD allow it?
I would complain if a TD in a tournament announced that it was fine with him.
WTH?
I would complain if a TD in a tournament announced that it was fine with him.
WTH?
Apr 17, 2017
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#13
What's the advantage that could be gained by writing it down first, then moving?
Apr 17, 2017
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#14
Why would it even be an advantage to write it down before the move is made? The clock would be ticking either way???....if you make the move, push the button and then write it down would that not even save you time???
Apr 17, 2017
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#15
It's similar to looking at notes during a game since the idea is that after seeing your move in writing you think about it some more and maybe change your mind.
The cheating type may also be looking for a reaction from his opponent to guide his choice in making a decision.
So you have to sit there and see this performance and of course you're curious what he wrote down but you have to keep your composure and a straight face. Then he covers up the move with his pen as if he's accusing you of cheating.
It's just so annoying and unnecessary.
The cheating type may also be looking for a reaction from his opponent to guide his choice in making a decision.
So you have to sit there and see this performance and of course you're curious what he wrote down but you have to keep your composure and a straight face. Then he covers up the move with his pen as if he's accusing you of cheating.
It's just so annoying and unnecessary.
Apr 17, 2017
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#16
Ah, I get it. I remember reading about Tal doing this, He wrote down a move, then angled the paper so Fischer could read it, to gauge his reaction.
Apr 17, 2017
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#17
No, Fischer wrote down his move without moving the piece.
Then Tal got up and had a laugh with another Russian GM.
A perfect reaction to that bs.
Apr 17, 2017
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#18
Okay -- now it makes sense to me.
There are similar (and equally as controversial and not universally adhered to) rules in poker, like not being allowed to make a false motion of moving in your chips in order to gauge the reaction of your opponent, etc.
Apr 17, 2017
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#19
Chess teachers used to advocate this bs practice of writing down your move first in printed articles!
I never did that crap.
Move, then record the move you made.
I never did that crap.
Move, then record the move you made.
Is it legal to write down your move before you make the move on the board?