The TD warns them not to do it and if they continue they forfeit the game.
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Apr 17, 2017
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#22
I have a better idea.
The TD warns them not to do it and if they continue they forfeit the game.
The TD warns them not to do it and if they continue they forfeit the game.
Apr 17, 2017
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#23
you are not allowed to do anything to distract your opponent, and that includes unwanted talking...they could opt to complain.
Apr 17, 2017
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#24
come to think of it pre-writing moves can be a distraction too, so double bad.....
Apr 17, 2017
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#25
From the tiny amount of reading i've done on it, It sounds like there isn't a concrete rule about talking, just like Martin and Chin pointed out is the case with the move-recording rule, and so a lot of latitude is given to the TD to restrict or allow certain amounts or types of game-speech.
Is this your experience?
Apr 17, 2017
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#26
You're right, Urk. I was misremembering something I read in "Endgame"
Interestingly, according to this book, Tal claimed later that the move Fischer showed him was a winning move, so he endeavored to make Fischer think it was a bad move!
Interestingly, according to this book, Tal claimed later that the move Fischer showed him was a winning move, so he endeavored to make Fischer think it was a bad move!
Apr 17, 2017
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#28
@ urk:
Well, you mentioned the story about Tal laughing with another Russian GM during a game, and i imagine they also snuck in a few words with their laughs, so i was just curious how often that sort of thing has happened and to what extent it's tolerated.
Like, was Tal warned for what he did?
Apr 17, 2017
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#29
Players stroll around the hall during games all the time and they may talk quietly but never about their own games.
That's my understanding.
You sure don't talk at the board.
That's my understanding.
You sure don't talk at the board.
Apr 17, 2017
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#30
Fischer complained during this time about games concluding and players starting to analyze, right there in the tournament hall. The thought of which is unbelievable to me, especially in a GM tournament, but it happened.
He wrote a letter to FIDE complaining about it.
He wrote a letter to FIDE complaining about it.
Apr 18, 2017
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#31
urk wrote:
Why would a TD allow it?
I would complain if a TD in a tournament announced that it was fine with him.
WTH?
I would complain if a TD in a tournament announced that it was fine with him.
WTH?
It's an option given by the USCF. I think it's part of the rules you can find on their website.
I agree with you though, it's ridiculous and I've never played this way. I move, hit the clock, then record the move.
Apr 18, 2017
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#32
universityofpawns wrote:
Why would it even be an advantage to write it down before the move is made? The clock would be ticking either way???....if you make the move, push the button and then write it down would that not even save you time???
Other than what Urk said, there are also electronic recording devices now. So what if you see your opponent interact with that device, think some more, interact again, etc. He could be making multiple moves like an analysis board, retracting them, trying a different line, etc.
Apr 18, 2017
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#33
Not to mention little tricks.
You could easily develop a system of note taking where you write down a move and lets say the first letter crosses the left side of the box, or the top, or the bottom, or it's all in caps, etc. Then you partially erase it, but not completely. Now you have a note of how you evaluate certain moves like a draw, or interesting, or whatever.
What about 'table talk?'
If done at a reasonable volume, is one allowed to speak during a game, explaining (truthfully or not) their thought processes in effort to mess with their opponent?