y'all are stupid. there's no correlation between IQ and chess. you can become a GM regardless of your IQ (having a significantly lower IQ would hamper with your chances, though).
I have an IQ of 126 so I guess I should be 2000, lol
Relationship between Chess rating and I.Q?
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CrusaderKing1 wrote:
SeniorPatzer wrote:
Amphionic wrote:
I think having a high IQ doesn’t make you good at chess. Practice and study does. I’ve an IQ of 156 but I’m dreadful at chess because I don’t read about it or study it or analyse games or take lessons etc. I think being obsessive about chess is more of an indicator of chess rating than IQ.
High IQ and lousy at chess seems kind of weird. Maybe it should not. But it does.
At the end of the day, it's a board game.
+1 exactly
SocialistEgypt wrote:
IQ is the key, Chess isn't for low IQ humans. we are the elite, we are bourgeois
you're an idiot. playing a board game isn't a sign of intelligence.
Jun 10, 2021
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Amphionic wrote:
I think having a high IQ doesn’t make you good at chess. Practice and study does. I’ve an IQ of 156 but I’m dreadful at chess because I don’t read about it or study it or analyse games or take lessons etc. I think being obsessive about chess is more of an indicator of chess rating than IQ.
I have a feeling that most folks who post their IQ on social media are low wattage.
Jun 10, 2021
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weltcheftrainer wrote:
I don't believe the studies are set up the right way. They should simply test the IQ of the top 100 chess players. I would expect that they average way above the average which is 100.
It would be interesting to test as many GMs as possible.
You say you'd expect way above average, but anything higher than 1 SD (15 points on some tests) would surprise me.
Jun 10, 2021
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SocialistEgypt wrote:
IQ is the key, Chess isn't for low IQ humans. we are the elite, we are bourgeois
lmao
Jun 10, 2021
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Amphionic wrote:
I think having a high IQ doesn’t make you good at chess. Practice and study does. I’ve an IQ of 156 but I’m dreadful at chess because I don’t read about it or study it or analyse games or take lessons etc. I think being obsessive about chess is more of an indicator of chess rating than IQ.
That is my point. There is like a need for years of practice. Like with painting, you can have it all, but you will need years. I believe that I have IQ above 160. And I am not good at chess, because chess is not an IQ test.
Jun 10, 2021
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ilicart-wordpress-com wrote:
Amphionic wrote:
I think having a high IQ doesn’t make you good at chess. Practice and study does. I’ve an IQ of 156 but I’m dreadful at chess because I don’t read about it or study it or analyse games or take lessons etc. I think being obsessive about chess is more of an indicator of chess rating than IQ.
That is my point. There is like a need for years of practice. Like with painting, you can have it all, but you will need years. I believe that I have IQ above 160. And I am not good at chess, because chess is not an IQ test.
You think anyone can be good regardless of IQ and you're estimating yourself at 160.
Both of these mean you lack experience, heh.
Test the top 100 in any professional field and take a guess, a wild guess that their average IQ is significantly higher than norms- you just might be right.
Jun 10, 2021
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llama47 wrote:
ilicart-wordpress-com wrote:
Amphionic wrote:
I think having a high IQ doesn’t make you good at chess. Practice and study does. I’ve an IQ of 156 but I’m dreadful at chess because I don’t read about it or study it or analyse games or take lessons etc. I think being obsessive about chess is more of an indicator of chess rating than IQ.
That is my point. There is like a need for years of practice. Like with painting, you can have it all, but you will need years. I believe that I have IQ above 160. And I am not good at chess, because chess is not an IQ test.
You think anyone can be good regardless of IQ and you're estimating yourself at 160.
Both of these mean you lack experience, heh.
I think a lot of very good chess players feel insulted when they are told they grinded to get good and its a lot less based on "natural talent".
In reality, very good chess players grinded a ton, whether some talent was involved or not.
Jun 10, 2021
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Well, chess is a game of patterns (tactics such as forks, skewers, and forced mates are all patterns you must recognize).
Most IQ tests have lots of questions based on seeing patterns (for example, many online IQ tests have questions like "Given this sequence of numbers, what is the next number?")
Most good chess players are good at seeing patterns, so they will do better than most people on IQ tests. However, IQ is based on a lot of other things, so there probably won't be a very big relationship.
Jun 10, 2021
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llama47 wrote:
ilicart-wordpress-com wrote:
Amphionic wrote:
I think having a high IQ doesn’t make you good at chess. Practice and study does. I’ve an IQ of 156 but I’m dreadful at chess because I don’t read about it or study it or analyse games or take lessons etc. I think being obsessive about chess is more of an indicator of chess rating than IQ.
That is my point. There is like a need for years of practice. Like with painting, you can have it all, but you will need years. I believe that I have IQ above 160. And I am not good at chess, because chess is not an IQ test.
You think anyone can be good regardless of IQ and you're estimating yourself at 160.
Both of these mean you lack experience, heh.
Actually I took that official test. And I feel the awful nature behind your comment, which mean that you are probably smart, but in the same time without self confidence about it. And not even close to Mensa. And I am really tired of this remark, it is often, and the truth is that high iq individuals are pushed aside, and minority, in other words gifted individuals that have build this society.
Lololollololo
Obviously it isn't but it would be amusing if the correlation turned out to be inverse
StormCentre3 wrote:
Test the top 100 in any professional field and take a guess, a wild guess that their average IQ is significantly higher than norms- you just might be right.
Top 100 Washington D.C. politicians starting with Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and all the way down to #100.... it would be very hard to believe that their average IQ is significantly higher than the norm, lol.
Jun 10, 2021
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SeniorPatzer wrote:
StormCentre3 wrote:
Test the top 100 in any professional field and take a guess, a wild guess that their average IQ is significantly higher than norms- you just might be right.
Top 100 Washington D.C. politicians starting with Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and all the way down to #100.... it would be very hard to believe that their average IQ is significantly higher than the norm, lol.
100% facts
Jun 10, 2021
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ilicart-wordpress-com wrote:
llama47 wrote:
ilicart-wordpress-com wrote:
Amphionic wrote:
I think having a high IQ doesn’t make you good at chess. Practice and study does. I’ve an IQ of 156 but I’m dreadful at chess because I don’t read about it or study it or analyse games or take lessons etc. I think being obsessive about chess is more of an indicator of chess rating than IQ.
That is my point. There is like a need for years of practice. Like with painting, you can have it all, but you will need years. I believe that I have IQ above 160. And I am not good at chess, because chess is not an IQ test.
You think anyone can be good regardless of IQ and you're estimating yourself at 160.
Both of these mean you lack experience, heh.
Actually I took that official test.
Oh, "that" test, of course. I apologize.
Who could forget the prestigious "that" test. One of the few that scores above 160.
Wait, re-reading your comment you say you "believe" you have an IQ above 160, but now you're saying you took a test. Which is it?
Maybe you took a test and don't remember the score or the name so you assume you're above 160 because... because you lack experience and didn't realize most tests don't even score that high... which is what I already said.
Jun 10, 2021
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SeniorPatzer wrote:
StormCentre3 wrote:
Test the top 100 in any professional field and take a guess, a wild guess that their average IQ is significantly higher than norms- you just might be right.
Top 100 Washington D.C. politicians starting with Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and all the way down to #100.... it would be very hard to believe that their average IQ is significantly higher than the norm, lol.
Most politicians are probably pretty smart.
They say dumb things because they appeal to dumb people... but privately I assume (most) are pretty smart.
Meanwhile your comment mentions Democratic politicians... so I assume you're one of those who finds half of politicians very appealing 
Jun 11, 2021
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SeniorPatzer wrote:
Amphionic wrote:
I think having a high IQ doesn’t make you good at chess. Practice and study does. I’ve an IQ of 156 but I’m dreadful at chess because I don’t read about it or study it or analyse games or take lessons etc. I think being obsessive about chess is more of an indicator of chess rating than IQ.
High IQ and lousy at chess seems kind of weird. Maybe it should not. But it does.
I’ve a rating of about 1,000 (dipping at the moment) having never taken a lesson and never analysed a game in my life. I only play chess on my phone to pass time because it’s just a game.
It’s like saying someone naturally fast should be an Olympic athlete. No - it takes an enormous amount of training to get good at anything.
The difference a high IQ makes to chess was that if I decided to dedicate myself to learning chess and training, then I might learn more easily.
Like anyone in the top percentile of any sport or hobby - it’s more of a product of obsession than any other factor.
High IQ and lousy at chess seems kind of weird. Maybe it should not. But it does.
At the end of the day, it's a board game.