Relationship between Chess rating and I.Q?

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Kotshmot
punchdrunkpatzer wrote:
mpaetz wrote:

As IQ and chess ratings do not have a 1 to 1 correspondence there are obviously other factors that influence chess ability. A person with lesser IQ may possess greater capabilities in these other areas and be a much stronger chess player than people with substantially higher IQs.

This.

Im pretty decent at chess and my IQ is 72. Here's an image:

I can guarantee your iq is not 72 unless you have suffered some neurological issue

punchdrunkpatzer
Kotshmot wrote:
punchdrunkpatzer wrote:
mpaetz wrote:

As IQ and chess ratings do not have a 1 to 1 correspondence there are obviously other factors that influence chess ability. A person with lesser IQ may possess greater capabilities in these other areas and be a much stronger chess player than people with substantially higher IQs.

This.

Im pretty decent at chess and my IQ is 72. Here's an image:

I can guarantee your iq is not 72 unless you have suffered some neurological issue

You know, I sometimes hear voices in my head urging me to play offbeat, trash gambits.

HernanCacciatore1

As I mentioned in another topic about IQ, one of the most terrible dictators that humanity suffered considered those who shared his same visions more smart and intelligent and superior than others that not share their vision.Is a dangerous think, I opine ,that only people of determinated sectors or specific study can be asociated as unique authorities to explain what inteligence is ...because inteligence is on all areas undiscriminatedly ! ...Some sectors of our society cut possibilities to people when sectorizing by diferent values,numbers,or preconcepts.

HernanCacciatore1
punchdrunkpatzer escribió:
Kotshmot wrote:
punchdrunkpatzer wrote:
mpaetz wrote:

As IQ and chess ratings do not have a 1 to 1 correspondence there are obviously other factors that influence chess ability. A person with lesser IQ may possess greater capabilities in these other areas and be a much stronger chess player than people with substantially higher IQs.

This.

Im pretty decent at chess and my IQ is 72. Here's an image:

I can guarantee your iq is not 72 unless you have suffered some neurological issue

You know, I sometimes hear voices in my head urging me to play offbeat, trash gambits.

Über-Ich is a term that we know as super ego from beginnings of the Psicology.He can be undertaken as a "inner voice" of the conscience.The inner search or inner attention also can be asociated to the step of Yoga Pratyahara " प्रत्याहार " of Patanjali.Not always indicated mind problems.

Kotshmot
punchdrunkpatzer wrote:
Kotshmot wrote:
punchdrunkpatzer wrote:
mpaetz wrote:

As IQ and chess ratings do not have a 1 to 1 correspondence there are obviously other factors that influence chess ability. A person with lesser IQ may possess greater capabilities in these other areas and be a much stronger chess player than people with substantially higher IQs.

This.

Im pretty decent at chess and my IQ is 72. Here's an image:

I can guarantee your iq is not 72 unless you have suffered some neurological issue

You know, I sometimes hear voices in my head urging me to play offbeat, trash gambits.

Well it would make holding that elo even slightly more impressive. Maybe you tried a little offbeat approach on that iq test as well?

Ziryab
punchdrunkpatzer wrote:
mpaetz wrote:

As IQ and chess ratings do not have a 1 to 1 correspondence there are obviously other factors that influence chess ability. A person with lesser IQ may possess greater capabilities in these other areas and be a much stronger chess player than people with substantially higher IQs.

This.

Im pretty decent at chess and my IQ is 72. Here's an image:

I scored 65 in an online test. Work harder and you can do the same.

Ziryab
HernanCacciatore1 wrote:

As I mentioned in another topic about IQ, one of the most terrible dictators that humanity suffered considered those who shared his same visions more smart and intelligent and superior than others that not share their vision.Is a dangerous think, I opine ,that only people of determinated sectors or specific study can be asociated as unique authorities to explain what inteligence is ...because inteligence is on all areas undiscriminatedly ! ...Some sectors of our society cut possibilities to people when sectorizing by diferent values,numbers,or preconcepts.

We all know a wannabe dictator with these views, although in truth, he is barely above average, and near the bottom of all those who have held his particular position of power.

Mrbonehead

Chess players think playing chess means you have a big IQ, when in reality all they have is big disgusting vile ego. Since playing on here I have come to despise people who play chess.

HernanCacciatore1
Ziryab escribió:
HernanCacciatore1 wrote:

As I mentioned in another topic about IQ, one of the most terrible dictators that humanity suffered considered those who shared his same visions more smart and intelligent and superior than others that not share their vision.Is a dangerous think, I opine ,that only people of determinated sectors or specific study can be asociated as unique authorities to explain what inteligence is ...because inteligence is on all areas undiscriminatedly ! ...Some sectors of our society cut possibilities to people when sectorizing by diferent values,numbers,or preconcepts.

We all know a wannabe dictator with these views, although in truth, he is barely above average, and near the bottom of all those who have held his particular position of power.

Despite his destructive psychopathy, he is credited with a high IQ. I can say without shame that this guy was no good ...neither their mind.Fortunatelly was strongly blundered and wrong as history and science shows

gb00182

my iq is 130 but my rating isnt 2300.. but i liked the formula in the first post. i hope its true

punchdrunkpatzer
Ziryab wrote:
punchdrunkpatzer wrote:
mpaetz wrote:

As IQ and chess ratings do not have a 1 to 1 correspondence there are obviously other factors that influence chess ability. A person with lesser IQ may possess greater capabilities in these other areas and be a much stronger chess player than people with substantially higher IQs.

This.

Im pretty decent at chess and my IQ is 72. Here's an image:

I scored 65 in an online test. Work harder and you can do the same.

You're an inspiration😤

HernanCacciatore1

As chess players, we make the mind move forward towards future moves. Why so much insistence on linking chess with IQ? What is the result of that? It is clear that chess can helps the mind and great players can be considered intelligent in "some way" ,and thats is not a proof that chess player can be good in other intelectual areas only to play well chess… but making a specific numerical association can only add pressure, I think. It is like putting a structured limitation.Idealism of Elo is also idealism.Adoration of unvisible concept. Searching for something that transports us to another reality, escaping the ordinary world to fly to fantasy concepts.To gain social acceptance and validation, because perhaps as children many of us did not receive validation from our parents? And that trauma grows and now society is an exacerbated symbol of the demand of parents to us to be better and better, a inner monster that is always dissatisfied, looking for ways to demonstrate self-validation?

Kotshmot
HernanCacciatore1 wrote:

As chess players, we make the mind move forward towards future moves. Why so much insistence on linking chess with IQ? What is the result of that? It is clear that chess can helps the mind and great players can be considered intelligent in "some way" ,and thats is not a proof that chess player can be good in other intelectual areas only to play well chess… but making a specific numerical association can only add pressure, I think. It is like putting a structured limitation.Idealism of Elo is also idealism.Adoration of unvisible concept. Searching for something that transports us to another reality, escaping the ordinary world to fly to fantasy concepts.To gain social acceptance and validation, because perhaps as children many of us did not receive validation from our parents? And that trauma grows and now society is an exacerbated symbol of the demand of parents to us to be better and better, a inner monster that is always dissatisfied, looking for ways to demonstrate self-validation?

Measuring roles of human variables, like intelligence and others, in our performance in different activities is interesting I think atleast.

gb00182
HernanCacciatore1 wrote:

As chess players, we make the mind move forward towards future moves. Why so much insistence on linking chess with IQ? What is the result of that?

It's a common way of thinking, that's why. make a simple google search, you see a head cogs in it.

my opinion; game is obviously related with intelligence but it is more related with memory heavily. this is like stockfish vs. database engine.

stockfish: evaluates positions and gives scores by calculating..

database engine: evaluates positions by finding them in previous games and scores them by seeing related games results.. this engine simply makes statistics.


my take on masters; they are more likely database engines.. and memory plays bigger role in chess.

Kotshmot
gb00182 wrote:
HernanCacciatore1 wrote:

As chess players, we make the mind move forward towards future moves. Why so much insistence on linking chess with IQ? What is the result of that?

It's a common way of thinking, that's why. make a simple google search, you see a head cogs in it.

my opinion; game is obviously related with intelligence but it is more related with memory heavily. this is like stockfish vs. database engine.

stockfish: evaluates positions and gives scores by calculating..

database engine: evaluates positions by finding them in previous games and scores them by seeing related games results.. this engine simply makes statistics.


my take on masters; they are more likely database engines.. and memory plays bigger role in chess.

Still every chess game contains unique positions where you have to solve problems and make decisions applying your knowledge and previous experience in a new, unique situation. Also the learning process involves understading concepts of almost unlimited complexity, that simply memorizing would limit you substancially. Intelligence plays a part in most activities that we do but I think it's fair to say chess is a game that has alot of fundamentals that intelligence addresses well.

HernanCacciatore1

Kotshmot and gb00182 : Thanks for chat and express opinions.I in part agree with gb00182.Also agree in a point with Kotshmot ...I always think that,following instructions,I can't discovered the Planet Paradise,for who's readed the book of Edward Packard,Inside UFO 54 40,(Choose Your Own Adventure colection).I apreciate and consider important to know theories ,and lections help a lot.But I need to experiment also other variants to discover and experiment by myself taking risks.Is part of experience.Errors too.About lot of situations and complexity, yes.But all this results in the idea that Chess is perhaps the game most involved with intelligence ,or one of the games most involved........" A cosmonaut trying to solve a situation unexpected having not something comparable to ELO measure,neither a dog walker when other dogs comes close aggressively....neither a actor in a theater suddenly forgetting their dialog and improvise to ...or a mom or father trying to respon to child a hard question in a speak clear to him in their own understand...Chess is a game.One of best involved on intelligence or perhaps the best.But a game.Lots of examples we have outer of Chess,as I said,cosmonaut,walker,actor,and parents and lots surely.For thats reasons can be uncomplet understanding only the view of icons of intelligence on the showcase of chess excludding lot of other people only by their low ELO.Thats the terrible risk.The close of a circle excluding...Imagine now a people very good on Chess with high ELO but not more other interests or alienated from reality.Do you think it's not possible?, that, just because he's a chess player is on safe and their mind high intelligent balanced ,with warranty and not doubts?

HernanCacciatore1

The image of #1645 I imagine like 747 plane from the point of view of a UFO or bird.Can be from up or down.My reactions to the scientific results that link ELO with IQ and mountains and rollercoaster graphics seems day to day more closely similar to holy water on Regan McNail's face.Sorry.Only my view.Respect other points,having my own...

HernanCacciatore1

gmdsg
HernanCacciatore1 wrote:

why u talking to yourself tho

HernanCacciatore1
gmdsg escribió:
HernanCacciatore1 wrote:
 

why u talking to yourself tho

Is not a wrote.Each post have number diferents: 1661,1662,1663...I respect people have right to un respond myself in other cases.I think is a right too un respond what unlike or created frustration.(Stoicism Philosophy)