Restriction due to aborting games

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LeaMnum

My account has been restricted due to the fact that I have aborted a few games.  However, I have only aborted games against those showing a Russian flag. I think right now I have an absolute right to do this. FIFA, UEFA, the IPC among very many others are excluding Russian competitors at the moment so what I am doing is not controversial and I should not be penalised for it. 

My_Budgies

Its called sandbagging.Its shown in chess.com rules that you shouldnt play  a ches sgame unless your ready to

LeaMnum

But I am ready to, but not against those displaying a Russian flag. I have a right to abort such games without being restricted.

 

mrspeedmaster
You have every right. I’m doing the same thing. Period. Chess.com should join other responsible companies and ban Russian players.
mrspeedmaster
Rules can be changed. Just do it.
Romans_5_8_and_8_5

Discrimination. Why should it matter who you're playing against?

sndeww

FIDE has passed rules forbidding Russia and Belarus from hosting world tournaments. Sergei Karjakin faces ethical charges by FIDE. I believe Russian professional players can still play in worldwide tournaments, as long as they don’t use the Russian flag. This is on chess24 news. You should read their official statement.

Onto chess.com. Aborting games against people using the Russian flag is honestly your own problem. It’s literally written as a warning: aborting games can lead to your account being restricted.

Now if we consider chess.com banning Russian players: this is almost impossible. People can randomly change their flag in settings; and an ip ban can be bypassed with a VPN. And thirdly, banning random Russians is a good way to show discrimination. And I thought we were in the civilized world?

Laskersnephew

Does anyone here think that the Russians playing on Chess.com were consulted by Putin before he attacked the Ukraine? 

sndeww
Laskersnephew wrote:

Does anyone here think that the Russians playing on Chess.com were consulted by Putin before he attacked the Ukraine? 

Seven days ago I received an email from the President asking if it would be OK to invade Ukraine. (No)

Martin_Stahl
LeaMnum wrote:

My account has been restricted due to the fact that I have aborted a few games.  However, I have only aborted games against those showing a Russian flag. I think right now I have an absolute right to do this. FIFA, UEFA, the IPC among very many others are excluding Russian competitors at the moment so what I am doing is not controversial and I should not be penalised for it. 

 

You only get restricted if you abort a certain percentage of games over a time period and is a percentage of your aborted to  completed games. You're of course free to abort games when you feel like but the site isn't going to be changing the abort rules.


That said, in regards to the rest of the posts, political type discussions are not allowed in the forums.

 

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/community/chesscom-posting-rules

 

https://www.chess.com/blog/CHESScom/in-support-of-ukraine

https://twitter.com/chesscom/status/1498644222320074755

LeaMnum

This is not a political discussion, it is a moral one!

And yes, this is discrimination - I have a moral right to discriminate and not play those whose flag conceivably aligns them with a  regime that is currently committing crimes against humanity and possible genocide.

As I said, FIFA, UEFA, IOC, IPC and hundreds of others have already correctly discriminated in this way!

LeaMnum

why should I be restricted for having the same moral view?

 

landloch

We can all make a long list of countries that have done or are doing horrible things. How should chess.com decide when a country is bad enough to allow unpunished aborts against users displaying a flag of that country?

Sred
LeaMnum wrote:

My account has been restricted due to the fact that I have aborted a few games.  However, I have only aborted games against those showing a Russian flag. I think right now I have an absolute right to do this. FIFA, UEFA, the IPC among very many others are excluding Russian competitors at the moment so what I am doing is not controversial and I should not be penalised for it. 

This is certainly controversial. You are a private person playing against a private person. None of you is representing a country. The Russian flag only shows that the opponent is (probably) Russian. That's no reason to hold them responsible for acts of the Russian government. They may be dedicated anti-war activists, after all.

sndeww
LeaMnum wrote:

This is not a political discussion, it is a moral one!

And yes, this is discrimination - I have a moral right to discriminate and not play those whose flag conceivably aligns them with… 

(Snip)

Fighting fire with fire usually burns more houses down.

LeaMnum
landloch wrote:

We can all make a long list of countries that have done or are doing horrible things. How should chess.com decide when a country is bad enough to allow unpunished aborts against users displaying a flag of that country?

But as I said, most organisations are already doing (in my view correctly) what I am doing. Including your country, the USA. Why should I be restricted for taking the same moral standpoints as such organisations and countries?

LeaMnum
Sred wrote:
LeaMnum wrote:

My account has been restricted due to the fact that I have aborted a few games.  However, I have only aborted games against those showing a Russian flag. I think right now I have an absolute right to do this. FIFA, UEFA, the IPC among very many others are excluding Russian competitors at the moment so what I am doing is not controversial and I should not be penalised for it. 

This is certainly controversial. You are a private person playing against a private person. None of you is representing a country. The Russian flag only shows that the opponent is (probably) Russian. That's no reason to hold them responsible for acts of the Russian government. They may be dedicated anti-war activists, after all.

I doubt the Russian football players are responsible for Putin's actions but they have been banned from all tournaments by FIFA and UEFA. My stance is just the same as theirs. Yet I have restrictions placed on me.

OranegJuice

Stop looking at your opponent's flag. Problem solved.

Radiophobia-0
OranegJuice wrote:

Stop looking at your opponent's flag. Problem solved.

TRUE

LeaMnum
B1ZMARK wrote:
LeaMnum wrote:

This is not a political discussion, it is a moral one!

And yes, this is discrimination - I have a moral right to discriminate and not play those whose flag conceivably aligns them with… 

(Snip)

Fighting fire with fire usually burns more houses down.

It does, and that is inevitable what will happen here. But at the same time we can't do nothing as crimes against humanity and possible genocide are occurring. A horrible situation to be in, and yet here we are.

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