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tonydal wrote:
chessroboto wrote:

I did a quick search on Amazon and came up with "The Feingold Cookbook for Hyperactive Children." Doesn't sound right.

 


Yep, that sure doesn't sound right (in fact, it sounds downright perverse)...


Actually it sounds like that Twilight Zone episode To serve man.

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"Excellent Mr. Simpson!"

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LisaV wrote:

I liked the Ironic Punishment in Hell scene in which he's force fed 1000's of doughnuts, and he wears out his tormentors.


What episode is that? I'd like to view it. Thanks. Smile

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I just did a wiki on Ben Finegold and I am surprised that no one has mentioned some key details in his development:

1. Born in to a chess family
2. USCF Master at 14 years of age
3. Life Master at 15
4. Senior Master at 16
5. International Master at 20
6. Grandmaster at 40

If someone would start getting a Master title in their 20s, and we used Finegold's progress as an optimistic model for progression, what is the soonest age that our latebloomer would attain the GM title?

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LisaV wrote:

I liked the Ironic Punishment in Hell scene in which he's force fed 1000's of doughnuts, and he wears out his tormentors.


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goldendog wrote:
LisaV wrote:

I liked the Ironic Punishment in Hell scene in which he's force fed 1000's of doughnuts, and he wears out his tormentors.


 


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chessroboto wrote:

I just did a wiki on Ben Finegold and I am surprised that no one has mentioned some key details in his development:

1. Born in to a chess family
2. USCF Master at 14 years of age
3. Life Master at 15
4. Senior Master at 16
5. International Master at 20
6. Grandmaster at 40

If someone would start getting a Master title in their 20s, and we used Finegold's progress as an optimistic model for progression, what is the soonest age that our latebloomer would attain the GM title?


So....what's a "chess family" and how can I be born into one?Cry

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TeslasLightning wrote:
chessroboto wrote:

I just did a wiki on Ben Finegold and I am surprised that no one has mentioned some key details in his development:

1. Born in to a chess family

If someone would start getting a Master title in their 20s, and we used Finegold's progress as an optimistic model for progression, what is the soonest age that our latebloomer would attain the GM title?


So....what's a "chess family" and how can I be born into one?


To me this is like the previous mentions of the Polgar sisters: they were introduced to chess at a very early age.

As for the "how" question, your guess is as good as mine. Wink

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Ahhhh....."chess family" = "chess player manufacturing center: "part of an educational experiment carried out by their father László Polgár, in an attempt to prove that children could make exceptional achievements if trained in a specialist subject from a very early age.[15] "Geniuses are made, not born," was László's thesis. He and his wife Klara educated their three daughters at home, with chess as the specialist subject."  Wikipedia

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I would have kept your sneaky GM plans secret until any of it came true

Good simul draw vs. Adams though, maybe you have what it takes :p

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heinzie wrote:

I would have kept your sneaky GM plans secret until any of it came true

Good simul draw vs. Adams though, maybe you have what it takes :p


The point of making them public is that I hope it might help me to achieve my goal:

(a)  By helping to motivate me.  I'm motivated by the comments I receive on my website, here and elsewhere - perhaps even more so by the negative ones.  I've also eliminated the option of getting to, say, 170 ECF and then calling it a day - that would be too embarrassing!

(b)  By encouraging other people to help.  More experienced players might comment on my games, or give me advice, and Chessbase have already generously helped me with a free Playchess membership and a DVD.

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Holy fuck
Free playchess membership and dvd for saying you'll go gm?

I'm 17 and rated 2k without practicing at all. I'm now planning to become a grandmaster.

Www.Idonthaveawebsitebutpleasegivemefreemembershipanddvd.com

Let the positive comments  start pouring in.

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TeslasLightning wrote:  So....what's a "chess family" and how can I be born into one?

Maybe if someone behaves well during their chess games during this lifetime they can reincarnate upward and be born into a "chess family" for their next lifetime.

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RoadtoGM wrote:
heinzie wrote:

I would have kept your sneaky GM plans secret until any of it came true

Good simul draw vs. Adams though, maybe you have what it takes :p


The point of making them public is that I hope it might help me to achieve my goal:

(a)  By helping to motivate me.  I'm motivated by the comments I receive on my website, here and elsewhere - perhaps even more so by the negative ones.  I've also eliminated the option of getting to, say, 170 ECF and then calling it a day - that would be too embarrassing!

(b)  By encouraging other people to help.  More experienced players might comment on my games, or give me advice, and Chessbase have already generously helped me with a free Playchess membership and a DVD.


Mate, you dont have time to (a). You should be reading right now?!

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Cystem_Phailure wrote:
TeslasLightning wrote:  So....what's a "chess family" and how can I be born into one?

Maybe if someone behaves well during their chess games during this lifetime they can reincarnate upward and be born into a "chess family" for their next lifetime.


Oh man....I must have behaved very badly during my chess games in my past lives.

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tonydal wrote:
RoadtoGM wrote:I've also eliminated the option of getting to, say, 170 ECF and then calling it a day - that would be too embarrassing!

A lot of people would be pretty satisfied with it, I'm sure...


Sure - 170 ECF is a good level.  I only say it would be 'embarrassing' because it's such a small improvement (just 8 points above my grade from last season), and the clearly-stated aim is to improve a lot.

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RoadtoGM wrote:

Hello Chess.com,

My name's Will Taylor, and I'm a 21 year old UK student who is aiming to progress from a class A chess player to a Grandmaster.  I have set up a website - http://roadtograndmaster.com - to document my progress.  I'd be interested to hear anyone's thoughts on the project or the website, and to learn about any precedents you may know of (i.e. people who are as relatively old and weak as I am, who have gone on to become GMs).

Will


Good luck with your project. If I was your coach (I'm not), I would tell you to reconsider your goals :

  • 2000 FIDE is your working goal
  • 2100 FIDE is your ambitious aim
  • 2200 FIDE is your extremely ambitious aim
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The real reason why this effort is doomed is no GM has ever had an improvement blog when they were 1800. In fact, has any blogger ever improved past 2000 fide?

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hicetnunc wrote:
RoadtoGM wrote:

Hello Chess.com,

My name's Will Taylor, and I'm a 21 year old UK student who is aiming to progress from a class A chess player to a Grandmaster.  I have set up a website - http://roadtograndmaster.com - to document my progress.  I'd be interested to hear anyone's thoughts on the project or the website, and to learn about any precedents you may know of (i.e. people who are as relatively old and weak as I am, who have gone on to become GMs).

Will


Good luck with your project. If I was your coach (I'm not), I would tell you to reconsider your goals :

2000 FIDE is your working goal 2100 FIDE is your ambitious aim 2200 FIDE is your extremely ambitious aim

I would say:

2000: Hobby player
2200: Hobby, use ALOT of time studying
IM/GM: Life dedication 

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SimonSeirup wrote:
hicetnunc wrote:
RoadtoGM wrote:

Hello Chess.com,

My name's Will Taylor, and I'm a 21 year old UK student who is aiming to progress from a class A chess player to a Grandmaster.  I have set up a website - http://roadtograndmaster.com - to document my progress.  I'd be interested to hear anyone's thoughts on the project or the website, and to learn about any precedents you may know of (i.e. people who are as relatively old and weak as I am, who have gone on to become GMs).

Will


Good luck with your project. If I was your coach (I'm not), I would tell you to reconsider your goals :

2000 FIDE is your working goal 2100 FIDE is your ambitious aim 2200 FIDE is your extremely ambitious aim

I would say:

2000: Hobby player
2200: Hobby, use ALOT of time studying
IM/GM: Life dedication 


 Depends on your access to tournaments- part of a rating is playing enough that your actual chess strength is reflected in your rating. If you live somewhere where there are no strong players, it could take a life dedication to get to 2200.

For places with easy access to chess 2000 is definitely doable as hobby with a bit of talent and perserverance.