Thank you Cookie Monster for your explanation. Funny thing is that the FIDE rules of correspondence and postal chess that I read did not clearly explain that.
Not that I'm doubting your rational reply, but does anyone else have a different take in the matter?
You roll it up and... oh that's not your question.
I know the rules of all 3 chess federations on reflection time. Before I pass this on, let me ask which federation you are playing under. If the answer is none and you didnt specify the rules you were going to go by then we may have a small problem. The move is considered made as soon as it reaches the mailbox not when i'ts opened. Answer the above question and I will send the rules to you. All 3 are using the same rules on reflection at the moment. I just need to know if you are playing under USFC, The World Correspondence Chess Federation or CCLA.
I guess I should ask, are you playing a match under one of those 3 Federations or just a private match with each other? Let me know...
You roll it up and... oh that's not your question.
Hehe yeah, I don't do that anymore actually. Kids our age do that out of pipes and what not these days. A lot of post-80's kids like me dont even know how to roll one at all actually.
I know the rules of all 3 chess federations on reflection time. Before I pass this on, let me ask which federation you are playing under. If the answer is none and you didnt specify the rules you were going to go by then we may have a small problem. The move is considered made as soon as it reaches the mailbox not when i'ts opened. Answer the above question and I will send the rules to you. All 3 are using the same rules on reflection at the moment. I just need to know if you are playing under USFC, The World Correspondence Chess Federation or CCLA.
I guess I should ask, are you playing a match under one of those 3 Federations or just a private match with each other? Let me know...
It's a private match.
Okay, then there are no rules except the ones you agreed on when you started. Did you make any rules covering reflection time between you as to say which Federation rules you were going to use when you started the match?
Yes that's the reason for the confusion. We agreed to FIDE rules before we started but are confused as to when the "reciept" time is.
You roll it up and... oh that's not your question.
Hehe yeah, I don't do that anymore actually. Kids our age do that out of pipes and what not these days. A lot of post-80's kids like me dont even know how to roll one at all actually.
Damn spoiled kids these days...
At least he knows what "rolling one" means...think how ignorant the next generation is gonna be...
Thank you all for your analysis. Both my friend and I would have timed out long ago under the real rules. I guess I'm going to have to send a proposed rules amendment with my next letter -- which, if I promptly send tomorrow, my opponent will read in the next month. I don't want to call the game over, as it is getting interesting. We are on move #14 in a game that started last October.
Honestly, can't believe you're still playing chess by mail...
Okay, the FIDE doesn't have any rules for Correspondence Chess, however they are related with the ICCF, their rules state that the reflection time is 10 moves in 30 days.....move 1-10 in 30 days, move 11-20 in 30 days and so on. Just to be clear, that 10 moves made in a 30 day period, not 30 days per move. The rules also state that the move is considered received and reflection time starts as soon as it hits the mailbox, not when opened. Since it's a private game, there is no one to report this abuse to so you are kinda on your own as to how you continue. Hope this helped.
Yes, I have a chess board at my house dedicated to this postal chess game about which I'm asking. Sometimes when I make my opponent's move on that particular board the pieces literally have cobwebs on them (no exaggeration!)
Of course I live in an old, spooky, cavernous Coral Gables monstrosity that, while it looks grand to passers-by, I wouldn't wish on anyone!
Wow, that knightspawn guy's got a kazillion points.
Not quite a kazillion yet, I am still working on that one...lol
Honestly, can't believe you're still playing chess by mail...
Well wouldn't you play by mail if that was the only way to play FRED FLINTSTONE? Seriously dude what's your major malfunction???
Most are done by e-mail now, though, some still send letters and post cards out to each other...... It's a fun way to play.....
Whoa...a NimzoSlam.
Hello all and happy Labor Day to all those in the US and Canada.
I need some quick help to fully understand a time control rule in Postal Chess (correspondence chess played through the mail or courier).
As far as I can tell from reading the official corresponence chess rules is that "reflection time" (how much time you deduct from your total time alloted) runs from when you recieve your opponent's move to when you post your responsive move.
However, I have two questions: 1) are we on the honor system, as far as reporting when we received the move, as we are dependent on the speed of the Mail system, and
2) My friend and I are not using postcards, but sealed letters in envelopes. Therefore, when we "recieve" the move is sometimes not when we actually get the envelope -- its when we choose to open the envelope and look at the move contained therein.
Such as, my friend gets his envelope from me on Day 1, puts in on the shelf for a week, then on Day 8, opens it, reads my move, then thinks for 2 more days, sends his response back on Day 10, and only deducts 3 days for "reflection time," although he's had my letter for 10 days. Is this legal/ethical?
Thanks for your help.
JM