Sad case of high school chess cheating

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Scottrf

Yeah good point...

waffllemaster

Sure you can be charged and investigated.

But they have no evidence and the kid was underage.

johnmusacha
waffllemaster wrote:

Sure you can be charged and investigated.

But they have no evidence and the kid was underage.

What are you talking about "you can be charged and investigated"?  Under what law?  Can you provide me with any anologous examples?

johnmusacha

Those pin cameras aren't that expensive actually.  And thigh-tappers have been around for decades.

waffllemaster
johnmusacha wrote:
waffllemaster wrote:

Sure you can be charged and investigated.

But they have no evidence and the kid was underage.

What are you talking about "you can be charged and investigated"?  Under what law?  Can you provide me with any anologous examples?

I'm not a lawyer, no idea which law.  I just assumed it was fraud.  There was some who wants to be a millionaire cheater, I believe he was prosecuted.  Don't know if he went to jail or not.  But come to think of it, it was the British version.  So can't say for United States.

You're so sure it's not fraud?

johnmusacha

Yeah the law probably would be fraud or fraudulent inducement or something like that, but the question is do the facts of what the kid did meet the elements of fraud?  I think not.  Sounds more like breach of contract if anything.

LeggomyEigo

I wonder why they don't just hire the Amazing James Randi to moderate these events? 

plutonia

I didn't know that electonic devices were allowed at all!

Even without engine, if somebody can move the pieces in a small board in his PDA he would have an unfair advantage, because it would be easier for him to look at the moves ahead!

waffllemaster
Shadowknight911 wrote:

if you are using a recording device, you're supposed to make the move first, then record, so that theoretically should preclude someone from looking moves ahead.

You make a move and I'm deep in thought.  Seems I keep forgetting to record your moves until I glance at my device and notice it's not the current position.  So I fiddle with it.  Soon after I make a very strong move in a critical position Wink

Of course this idiot kid was probably using it for every move seeing as he went from crap to champ.

NEWBlE

hes an *ss

Conflagration_Planet

Couldn't that be called grand theft by trick or device? I've heard of that.

Conflagration_Planet

Weird, since you are stealing money.

patricklarrye

really this is bad..

waffllemaster

Heh, why bother getting surgical implants when some kid won a lot without any attempt at subterfuge.

Still can't believe it took so long to catch him.  I tend to notice when some 1200 rated kid destroys me in 25 moves and my computer thinks he's a chess genius.

40 games later it comes down to the TD, who has never played the kid, to figure it out.

Conflagration_Planet

Strange, how this site has started causing certain words to be underlined so you can click on em. I noticed this when I typed play chess earlier.

waffllemaster

Yeah, that happened to me too conflagration_planet.  I had to get some spyware stuff to remove it.  It's not done by the site, infact you should be able to find it happening on all websites.

Conflagration_Planet

It's not removed in your post right above. That's what reminded me of it.

electricpawn

The Monroi will remain a fixture at USCF tournaments because more money can be made selling them than can be made selling scorebooks and pencils.

learningthemoves

Seems while everyone was diverted by the cheating kid,

we somehow glossed over the biggest takeaway from that article...

a critique of all of someone's chess games by Robert James Fischer!

Imagine having all your games recorded for years and stashed away.

You get back home and Bobby Fischer found them and you see he's analyzed them all.

Then when you ask him what he thought, he says, "You're a pretty good player, but you're too pessimistic."

Next time you play, you're probably going to be more confident than ever looking optimistically for opportunities in every position like never before.

Forget the kid who cheated...let's make sure we're not being too pessimistic lol.

waffllemaster
Conflagration_Planet wrote:

It's not removed in your post right above. That's what reminded me of it.

On my computer I don't see any links.  There's malicious/annoying software on your machine that adds it for only you to see.