Sandbagging

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Istoff

I have been playing on chess.com for basically the past decade and there has been one issue always present: sandbagging. This is seriously destroying any reason to care about rating. Arenas are not worth doing bc half the arena is full of "600s" who are most likely around 2000s.

Easy solution right? Just avoid arenas and play only people your rank. This is what I have done for years until the introduction of leagues, which heavily incentivizes arenas. What has been my experience so far? You guessed it, sandbagging! Arenas are full of even more sandbaggers than before, but setting arenas aside for the moment, the last two people leading my bracket tanked their elo right before the start of the leagues then simply played people much lower lvl than them and they rack up easy points. 

I realize this kind of problem is not so much a chess.com problem as it is a problem with the type of user on chess.com, but it would be better to take sandbagging more seriously when creating events like leagues by not incentivizing the broken arena tournys, for example. 

Kuso-ka

yeah I haven't been on this site long, but I have seen that problem

what do you suggest they do to prevent this

NikkiLikeChikki
I checked all of your recent losses, and every one of your opponents was playing near or above their one year average. Just because someone plays particularly well in one game doesn’t mean they are sandbagging.
Hartsville54

one way to address sandbagging is to create some kind of rating floor maybe 200 points below your highest rating in the last 2 years, or something like that. This would address sandbagging for a specific tournament while not interfering with natural decline in rating as we age; financial incentive and sandbagging go back a long way 

Istoff
NikkiLikeChikki wrote:
I checked all of your recent losses, and every one of your opponents was playing near or above their one year average. Just because someone plays particularly well in one game doesn’t mean they are sandbagging.

I'm not talking about my recent losses. I'm talking about the obvious 600-700 rated players who go 17-0 in arenas. Do you not think that is a problem, esp when arenas are encouraged with leagues? 

Martin_Stahl
Istoff wrote:

I have been playing on chess.com for basically the past decade and there has been one issue always present: sandbagging. This is seriously destroying any reason to care about rating. Arenas are not worth doing bc half the arena is full of "600s" who are most likely around 2000s.

Easy solution right? Just avoid arenas and play only people your rank. This is what I have done for years until the introduction of leagues, which heavily incentivizes arenas. What has been my experience so far? You guessed it, sandbagging! Arenas are full of even more sandbaggers than before, but setting arenas aside for the moment, the last two people leading my bracket tanked their elo right before the start of the leagues then simply played people much lower lvl than them and they rack up easy points. 

I realize this kind of problem is not so much a chess.com problem as it is a problem with the type of user on chess.com, but it would be better to take sandbagging more seriously when creating events like leagues by not incentivizing the broken arena tournys, for example. 

 

Sandbagging is considered cheating and should be reported.

https://support.chess.com/article/209-how-do-i-report-someone

 

However, this type of discussion isn't allowed in the general forums. If you would like to discuss, join the following club:

https://www.chess.com/club/cheating-forum

 

 

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