Scholar's Mate Opening Without Insult?

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Avatar of bigpoison

Why "do try" Marv?  Why not just "try".  Seems a bit superfluous to me. 

And you gave me hell for "laugh aloud."

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marvellosity wrote:
orangehonda wrote:

This is the wrong way to view it -- if someone tries the scholar's mate on you, sure, be insulted, but don't expect to win, at worst it's simply a loss of tempo when they have to move their queen somewhere else, it's far from a game loosing blunder.  If you expect to win you're setting yourself up psychologically.

I wouldn't be so much insulted as I'd have no respect for them as a "player."  If a player rated higher than me opened with it, I'd just see it as a novelty opening like 1.b4 -- I wouldn't expect to win, but I'd expect an advantage out of the opening.


Dear chap, please do try to spell 'lose' and 'losing' correctly. You're loosely using loosing where it doesn't belong ;)


 lol this is nothing Wink without spell check I'd be surprised if anyone could suffer though reading an entire post.  Although spell check, through repetition, has probably taught me more spelling than I learned all through school so I might not be as bad as that... still, if it's not spelled phonetically there're good chances I can't spell it.

That said I'll try to remember lose is not winning while "loose pieces fall off." Smile

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bigpoison wrote:

Why "do try" Marv?  Why not just "try".  Seems a bit superfluous to me. 


Ha! Here in ole England, 'do' is used in order to accentuate and patronise :p

"*Do* try to keep your food on the plate, dear."

Avatar of Scarblac

I don't believe in insulting moves, but if playing ...Qf6 and ...Bc5 in the first three moves is an insult, then surely so is playing a3 and h3.

Avatar of DMX21x1

I'm not aware of some of the openings mentioned above.  All I know is when someone tries this on me I don't feel insulted but it suggests a lack of experience in my opponent.  If anything it boosts my confidence that I'm going to win. 

I got bored trying that on people about 6 weeks after learning how to play.  I'm always on the lookout for fools mate though, its surprising how many people don't know about that one.  I've yet to achieve it though. 

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Avatar of FabledConcious

why would it insult someone? if they don't notice it then they aren't paying attention enough and that's how chess goes. i don't see how it could be offending. not paying attention in chess hurts.

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The Bishop’s Opening is fine and doesn’t necessarily lead to a scholar’s mate attempt. It’s the first step in the Ponziani and the Urosov Gambit.

It can be useful because lots of people assuming that scholar’s is coming, will waste a tempo to try and prevent it.