One large misconception is that playing early attacks, especially early flank attacks, is somehow "wrong".
It is certainly not best, but the moves are very playable against a human most of the time.
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StupidGM wrote:
Why are people still recommending books written by HUMANS who are rated SEVEN HUNDRED POINTS below Stockfish?
Obviously the humans don't know anything about chess.
And obviously you've got no clue what teaching is. Stockfish is not going to explain anything to anyone, nor is a motorbike going to help anyone win the Tour de France.
In case you want to insist on that slippery path of yours, I know for a fact, that a number of GMs say they've got no clue how to teach nor to explain chess to beginners, as I've read it in chess magazines interviews (such as Europe Echecs, just quoting my sources).
So, no matter who you are and what your chess strenght it, I'm not going to hire you as an adviser, coach or educator. Your capacity is that aspect is close to zero.
Logical chess is good for beginners but follow the analysis with critical sense because Chernev had some misconceptions.
Play slow games and analyze them.
Don't play much blitz because it can develop bad abits, but make sure you learn something from them.
May 20, 2017
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The drills so I see, are about attacking. How about drills to learn getting out of trouble or danger ?
lovebecause wrote:
<div class="fquote"><span class="quoted-user"> pl4ych4ss wrote: </span> <div class="quoted-text">Reading book like 'logical chess move by move' is better than reading games by yourself. Author explained it in details.</div> <div class="quoted-text"> </div> </div> <p> </p> <p>you read my mind. This book will teach you what its like to look at a masters game very well. I'm 1700 and just now able to understand those games on my own.
my best advice...
1. Study more than you play.
2. Study for a goal for a period of time to accomplish a goal. I'm studying defense now in a book and pawn structure. Sometimes I won't play a few days read the material, make sure I got it and then play chess again.
3. Play lots of blitz. I played around 5000 games of blitz with some studying and that taught me a lot quickly. Perhaps I increased even 200-300 points. This can be a basis for study, what don't I know, what don't I like, what went well. 5-10 minutes is more than enough time.
4. Have fun, play some bughouse, play faster 1 minute blitz games, play weird gambits etc.
5. Rest. We grow a little when we play, we grow even greater when we allow our brain to rest.
Cheers! There are 50% of people on either side of the "play more than you study"/"study more than you play" thing... I do both when I have the time.
WilliamShookspear wrote:
lovebecause wrote:
<div class="fquote"><span class="quoted-user"> pl4ych4ss wrote: </span> <div class="quoted-text">Reading book like 'logical chess move by move' is better than reading games by yourself. Author explained it in details.</div> <div class="quoted-text"> </div> </div> <p> </p> <p>you read my mind. This book will teach you what its like to look at a masters game very well. I'm 1700 and just now able to understand those games on my own.
my best advice...
1. Study more than you play.
2. Study for a goal for a period of time to accomplish a goal. I'm studying defense now in a book and pawn structure. Sometimes I won't play a few days read the material, make sure I got it and then play chess again.
3. Play lots of blitz. I played around 5000 games of blitz with some studying and that taught me a lot quickly. Perhaps I increased even 200-300 points. This can be a basis for study, what don't I know, what don't I like, what went well. 5-10 minutes is more than enough time.
4. Have fun, play some bughouse, play faster 1 minute blitz games, play weird gambits etc.
5. Rest. We grow a little when we play, we grow even greater when we allow our brain to rest.
Cheers! There are 50% of people on either side of the "play more than you study"/"study more than you play" thing... I do both when I have the time.
Yep, I study sporadically, but I do study for periods of time.
Lots of blitz is good, but I play lots of slow games too, to get me out of bad habits.
I do relax and play some weird chess from time to time... 
The resting bit is vital for me to learn.
hip170225 wrote:
There's been a few recommendations for Chernev's Logical Chess, and it is an excellent book for learning basic strategies of positional play. A word of warning though; Chernev likes positional games and tends to be a bit dismissive of very aggressive tactical play. After reading 'Logical Chess' at the age of about 10, I was left with the impression that only people with no clue what they were doing played opening sacrifices or launched aggressive attacks before they had properly developed every piece. I was outraged when I lost two games to players like that in my next competition after reading the book.
I'd still recommend the book in spite of the above; there really isn't anyone else who explains strategy as well for people under 1500. Just remember, the fact not many people could win with a full out attack against Chernev's hero Capablanca, doesn't mean that aggressive play can't be very effective against the rest of us. And maybe consider reading a collection of games by someone like Mikhail Tal at the same time to get both sides of the aggressive versus positional play argument.
I'd still recommend the book in spite of the above; there really isn't anyone else who explains strategy as well for people under 1500. Just remember, the fact not many people could win with a full out attack against Chernev's hero Capablanca, doesn't mean that aggressive play can't be very effective against the rest of us. And maybe consider reading a collection of games by someone like Mikhail Tal at the same time to get both sides of the aggressive versus positional play argument.
I need some brushing up on positional play, but I think my attacks/tactics are ok. Misha is a superb balance to Capablanca! (Or to Petrosian, even.) Thanks for the caveat, I will keep that in mind.
Cherub_Enjel wrote:
One large misconception is that playing early attacks, especially early flank attacks, is somehow "wrong".
It is certainly not best, but the moves are very playable against a human most of the time.
I have seen lots of 2000's on lichess who, as soon as they complete development, they launch a Qside pawn storm, that requires channeling Capa to weather. It's a legitimate way to play, no doubt about it...
pl4ych4ss wrote:
WilliamShookspear寫道：
pl4ych4ss wrote:
Reading book like 'logical chess move by move' is better than reading games by yourself. Author explained it in details.
Good chess books are great, I will see what I can find! Thank you!
You can find it in amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/Logical-Chess-Every-Explained-Algebraic/dp/0713484640/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1495296726&sr=8-1&keywords=logical+chess+move+by+move
There are 33 chess games explained by Author. The PGN of the game can be found at
http://beginchess.com/2010/08/09/logical-chess-move-by-move-pgn-download/
It is convenience to read this book with the PGN file played on computer.
A pgn! Thank you, even better than Amazon. (Shipping to Australia is shocking...)
StupidGM wrote:
Why are people still recommending books written by HUMANS who are rated SEVEN HUNDRED POINTS below Stockfish?
Obviously the humans don't know anything about chess.
2800 rated players are writing books?! Where can I get one?
BobbyTalparov wrote:
Several people mentioned "Logical Chess Move by Move", but no one mentioned the followup to that book: "The Most Instructional Games of Chess Ever Played". I recommend both of those books for players in the sub-1800 range who are looking to improve by studying master games. I caution against just looking at lines played in a database for such study as it will not tell you the thought process of the player nor explain the subtle positional considerations. I would also suggest picking up a move by move book on the openings you play, as you are more likely to get into similar situations as the ones you will see in those games.
I actually own said followup, but I haven't pulled it out in yonks... Will do now, thanks!
Giulio88 wrote:
Logical chess is good for beginners but follow the analysis with critical sense because Chernev had some misconceptions.
Play slow games and analyze them.
Don't play much blitz because it can develop bad abits, but make sure you learn something from them.
Yep, I'm getting that Chernev is not exactly the most accurate... But I will still read it, although with criticism.
Slow games are good for you. Blitz games, I think, teach you about openings...
Possibly of interest:
Simple Attacking Plans by Fred Wilson (2012)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140708090402/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review874.pdf
https://www.newinchess.com/Shop/Images/Pdfs/7192.pdf
Logical Chess: Move by Move by Irving Chernev (1957)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140708104437/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/logichess.pdf
The Most Instructive Games of Chess Ever Played by Irving Chernev (1965)
https://chessbookreviews.wordpress.com/tag/most-instructive-games-of-chess-ever-played/
50 Essential Chess Lessons by Steve Giddins
https://web.archive.org/web/20140708100833/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review534.pdf
Starting Out: Attacking Play by James Plaskett
https://web.archive.org/web/20140708101549/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review467.pdf
Simple Chess by Michael Stean
https://web.archive.org/web/20140708104258/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review400.pdf
The Amateur's Mind by Jeremy Silman
https://web.archive.org/web/20140708094419/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/ammind.pdf
Chess The Art of Logical Thinking by Neil McDonald...
https://web.archive.org/web/20140708091057/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review465.pdf
The World's Most Instructive Amateur Game Book" by Dan Heisman
https://web.archive.org/web/20140708092834/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review872.pdf
Back to Basics: Tactics by Dan Heisman (2007)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140708233537/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review585.pdf
Various endgame study possibilities discussed at:
https://web.archive.org/web/20140708103149/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review594.pdf
https://web.archive.org/web/20140708105702/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review645.pdf
https://www.newinchess.com/Shop/Images/Pdfs/9026.pdf
https://web.archive.org/web/20140708234309/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review704.pdf
http://www.gambitbooks.com/pdfs/Understanding_Chess_Endgames.pdf
https://chessbookreviews.wordpress.com/tag/chess-endgames-for-kids/
http://www.gambitbooks.com/pdfs/Chess_Endgames_for_Kids.pdf
http://theweekinchess.com/john-watson-reviews/endings-endings-endings
http://theweekinchess.com/john-watson-reviews/the-end-game-comes-before-we-know-it
http://theweekinchess.com/john-watson-reviews/theres-an-end-to-it-all
Before buying any particular book, I suggest going to the publisher site to see if it is possible to view a sample.
"... As is the wont with modern opening works, these books usually centre their recommended variations around an instructive and/or entertaining game, without great depth but with sufficient detail to show the main branches and explain basic ideas. ..." - IM John Watson (2012)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140627015516/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen163.pdf
In one of his books about an opening, GM Nigel Davies wrote (2005), "The way I suggest you study this book is to play through the main games once, relatively quickly, and then start playing the variation in actual games. Playing an opening in real games is of vital importance - without this kind of live practice it is impossible to get a 'feel' for the kind of game it leads to. There is time enough later for involvement with the details, after playing your games it is good to look up the line."
"..., you have to make a decision: have tons of fun playing blitz (without learning much), or be serious and play with longer time controls so you can actually think.
One isn’t better than another. Having fun playing bullet is great stuff, while 3-0 and 5-0 are also ways to get your pulse pounding and blood pressure leaping off the charts. But will you become a good player? Most likely not.
Of course, you can do both (long and fast games), ..." - IM Jeremy Silman (June 9, 2016)
https://www.chess.com/article/view/longer-time-controls-are-more-instructive
One can see some discussion of the pros and cons of Chernev's Logical Chess at:
https://web.archive.org/web/20140627132019/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/heisman118.pdf
http://exeterchessclub.org.uk/content/logical-chernev
http://chessskill.blogspot.com/2013/01/logical-chess-book-review.html
http://chessskill.blogspot.com/2013/02/chernevs-errors.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20140708104437/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/logichess.pdf
http://theweekinchess.com/john-watson-reviews/assorted-recent-books
https://web.archive.org/web/20140708091057/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review465.pdf
to the OP, I had a thread of somewhat similar content, Read through it as well.
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/another-how-to-improve-thread-with-a-long-story-by-a-new-member
One of the more valuable recommendations was to read through the novice nook archives, focus on the first year and take notes while reading the content. He gives some good book recommendations as well.
http://web.archive.org/web/20140625052220/http://www.chesscafe.com/archives/archives.htm#Novice
I am currently reading those articles, doing tactics problems in a book Dan Heisman recommended and also reading Dan's Back to Basics: Tactics. Lastly, Dan Heisman's website also has book information worthy of reviewing as it talks about what books are good for specific elo ranges and topics.
I personally bought several books but plan on going slowly through the content to absorb as much as I can. This includes taking notes in a notepad for review.
Best of Luck!
Steve
I'd still recommend the book in spite of the above; there really isn't anyone else who explains strategy as well for people under 1500. Just remember, the fact not many people could win with a full out attack against Chernev's hero Capablanca, doesn't mean that aggressive play can't be very effective against the rest of us. And maybe consider reading a collection of games by someone like Mikhail Tal at the same time to get both sides of the aggressive versus positional play argument.