Should I flag my opponents?

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I dont really like winning by flagging my opponents. It feels like a dirty way to win, especially when you are losing. I also feel like it inflates your rating as flagging does not really reflect your skill level.  Is that just a normal part of playing chess, or should i avoid doing it? 

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Better is to play with increment: no flagging.

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joshchoong wrote:

I dont really like winning by flagging my opponents. It feels like a dirty way to win, especially when you are losing. I also feel like it inflates your rating as flagging does not really reflect your skill level.  Is that just a normal part of playing chess, or should i avoid doing it? 

 

If you feel had about it, resign when losing ... rather than winning on time.

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Flagging is (unfortunatelly) part of the game.

Agree with you: it is a very poor way to win just to inflate rate and ego of some players. Usually I resign if it's clear I will loose. Personally I can't understand what the aim of stealing 6/7/8 points winning by clock a position when you are K&pawn against Q&R&pawns (just happened).

Different if we are in a drawn position: if we are stuck in the same position but I get on it in less time, then I deserve to win...

Flagging is on the rule, but it's not fair. In my experience the highest is the rate of the opponent, the less they flag. I think it's a matter of attitude: great players don't need to force the rules

 

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It's perfectly fair and normal.

Speed chess balances skill against speed. That's the aim of the game and if you don't flag, then you are distorting the rating and it's potentially unfair to others.

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Flagging is great and it is part of the game. Just the way you flag people and win, sometimes you will be the one being flagged.

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I feel it's totally ok to win by flagging as long as you are not in a clearly losing position. Then you should have resigned.

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georgekastrin wrote:

I feel it's totally ok to win by flagging as long as you are not in a clearly losing position. Then you should have resigned.


No "should" about it. It's just a choice some make.

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No "should" about it. happy.png

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Just don't play blitz or bullet problem solved 

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joshchoong wrote:

I dont really like winning by flagging my opponents. It feels like a dirty way to win, especially when you are losing. I also feel like it inflates your rating as flagging does not really reflect your skill level.  Is that just a normal part of playing chess, or should i avoid doing it? 

I don't entirely agree that flagging does not really reflect your skill level.  I have had a handful of games where I am short on material and my opponent is short on time.  My plan when this happens is to avoid being checkmated and to complicate things for him.  Believe it or not, this does require some skill.

On the other side, I have had opponents try to flag me by making aimless moves in clearly drawn positions.  That doesn't take any skill, and the game usually is drawn by the 50-move rule.

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landaverde1 wrote:
How do you flag people?

It just means makes them run out of time. So you move fast and don't get mated you don't have to try and mate just make fast moves that don't lose and you win. 

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If it is unethical to flag someone in blitz, then it is unethical to win because you're up material or have a better position. You got the time advantage because your opponent messed up (Took too long). You got the material or better position because your opponent messed up (Played bad moves). Where is the difference?

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Yes.  Flag away.

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woton wrote:
joshchoong wrote:

I dont really like winning by flagging my opponents. It feels like a dirty way to win, especially when you are losing. I also feel like it inflates your rating as flagging does not really reflect your skill level.  Is that just a normal part of playing chess, or should i avoid doing it? 

I don't entirely agree that flagging does not really reflect your skill level.  I have had a handful of games where I am short on material and my opponent is short on time.  My plan when this happens is to avoid being checkmated and to complicate things for him.  Believe it or not, this does require some skill.

On the other side, I have had opponents try to flag me by making aimless moves in clearly drawn positions.  That doesn't take any skill, and the game usually is drawn by the 50-move rule.


Yes, trying to flag in dead drawn positions where both players have roughly similar time left is idiotic. It doesn't happen too much and I would always block anybody who persevered with it and didn't accept my second draw offer. I might resign and block. In my opinion if I could press a button to ban them from playing, I would.

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joshchoong wrote:

I dont really like winning by flagging my opponents. It feels like a dirty way to win, especially when you are losing. I also feel like it inflates your rating as flagging does not really reflect your skill level.  Is that just a normal part of playing chess, or should i avoid doing it? 

Yes, it's perfectly fine to flag your opponents. Flagging is just a part of chess. It's your opponent's fault if they move too slow, and it's just like beating them by checkmate or resignation or something like that.

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Optimissed ha scritto:

It's perfectly fair and normal.
Speed chess balances skill against speed. That's the aim of the game and if you don't flag, then you are distorting the rating and it's potentially unfair to others.

usual statements from a flagger... which don't distinguish "legitimate" from "fair". But, who am I to judge who is proud to steal a victory?

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neatgreatfire ha scritto:

If it is unethical to flag someone in blitz, then it is unethical to win because you're up material or have a better position. You got the time advantage because your opponent messed up (Took too long). You got the material or better position because your opponent messed up (Played bad moves). Where is the difference?

that one is playing chess, the other one is just moving pieces random on the chessboard... you can be proud of this solution, of course, I think it's silly and unfair

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exceptionalfork ha scritto:
joshchoong wrote:

I dont really like winning by flagging my opponents. It feels like a dirty way to win, especially when you are losing. I also feel like it inflates your rating as flagging does not really reflect your skill level. Is that just a normal part of playing chess, or should i avoid doing it?

Yes, it's perfectly fine to flag your opponents. Flagging is just a part of chess. It's your opponent's fault if they move too slow, and it's just like beating them by checkmate or resignation or something like that.

and when you won by clock a position clearly lost with 0.1" ? Is it the opponent "too slow" or you won just for luck? Cm'on! be honest, be fair... nobody will die if you resign in a position you deserve to loose

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listen:

Blitz, bullet, and fast rapid requires you to balance quality and speed.

That is why there is a BLITZ championship and a CLASSICAL championship.

One evaluates your ability to play fastly but still accurately

One evaluates your ability to play chess

flagging is a part of the game, it is their problem if they took so long, they proved they are unable to play chess speedily, so they deserve it.

If you don't like it, play classical or daily chess