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Gabriel451 wrote:

chess is war therefore you have to keep in mind that there are casualties and injuries in any battle I think you are looking at it wrong with the immature taunting you should know that your enimies have been totally out played and are trying to return the horrible feeling that has swept over them so now you know this for a fact I don't want to hear about it anymore

With all due respect, as a veteran I can assure you that chess is NOT war. War is war. Chess is a game. Good sportsmanship is appropriate when playing a game.

And punctuation saves lives: "I'm hungry, let's eat, troll" is different from "I'm hungry, let's eat troll"

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Do you play chess on here Robbie? I was going to add some comments to any of your games but there is nothing there? 

Gave me a great idea this thread did.

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robbie_1969 wrote:
macer75 wrote:
robbie_1969 wrote:
 

Its not a bad idea if its based on empirical evidence and peer reviewed.  

Really? There have never been any bad ideas that were based on empirical evidence and peer reviewed?

You have an alternative method?

I'm not saying I do, but why does that matter? Your claim was "It's not a bad idea if it's based on empirical evidence and peer-reviewed." I'm saying that that's not true. It doesn't matter whether there are or aren't bad ideas based from other means, since that's a completely different question.

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I like the intent of this idea. But, I don't want game ratings to be mixed up with 'behaviour' of players. But, I think it would be a good idea to have a separate 'perfection' rating' or 'gentleman rating' which is only based on behaviour of players. That way, you can have two separate measurements for two different things. I know it is difficult to keep track of rudeness, but it is worth a try.

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Oh look, Robbie has a ponytail now!  There's a flat space under his kilt where you and I would have a mound.  If he can hold out for another 24 hours, we can join him in celebrating Scottish Homosexual Day.

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Gregorybuser wrote:

Gabriel451 wrote:

chess is war therefore you have to keep in mind that there are casualties and injuries in any battle I think you are looking at it wrong with the immature taunting you should know that your enimies have been totally out played and are trying to return the horrible feeling that has swept over them so now you know this for a fact I don't want to hear about it anymore

With all due respect, as a veteran I can assure you that chess is NOT war. War is war. Chess is a game. Good sportsmanship is appropriate when playing a game.

And punctuation saves lives: "I'm hungry, let's eat, troll" is different from "I'm hungry, let's eat troll"

first of all I didn't mean commercial mainstream war but a type of war nonetheless like this for instance is a type of battle one which you have lost already I might add your first mistake was not knowing it was war the chess being war was definitely not my idea Aristotle Napoleon Bobby Fischer Sun Tzu but the list goes on and on about the punctuation you can refer to my previous post about that reread it slowly a few times and you will get it eventually and ahhh the troll you know it's a funny thing when arguing with a troll it's hard for the passerby to tell the difference between them and good day sir

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MEXIMARTINI wrote:

Do you play chess on here Robbie? I was going to add some comments to any of your games but there is nothing there? 

Gave me a great idea this thread did.

Hi Meximartini, amigo! I have decided not to play any chess, I cannot stand looking at my games, they fill me with horror and disgust. think kaynight butt naked roaming around Edinburgh on a Saturday night singing Jambo songs, tripple x certificate stuff! 

Still if it gave you a great idea then its all good though!

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macer75 wrote:
robbie_1969 wrote:
macer75 wrote:
robbie_1969 wrote:
 

Its not a bad idea if its based on empirical evidence and peer reviewed.  

Really? There have never been any bad ideas that were based on empirical evidence and peer reviewed?

You have an alternative method?

I'm not saying I do, but why does that matter? Your claim was "It's not a bad idea if it's based on empirical evidence and peer-reviewed." I'm saying that that's not true. It doesn't matter whether there are or aren't bad ideas based from other means, since that's a completely different question.

yes but you have provided no evidence or reason other than a self certified truth claim of your own.  Its not true because I say its not true, an appeal to authority, your own.  How pathetic. On that basis if you claimed you were a submarine commander and a world war two flying ace we would also be expected to believe you? I refuse to believe its the best you can do, please find the tone control and turn it all the way up, as far as you can go, there's a good fellow.

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kaynight wrote:

robbie..gie them bams a guid gubbin.' Bunch o' spangles, the lot o' them.

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What is chess but the application of logic? The falsification of a theory using deductive logic to ascertain its veracity or otherwise.  Chess I would say is science.  There have been a few individuals throughout history who have managed to transcend this and enter a kind of metaphysical realm, Capablanca and Fischer, but these too relied on a scientific rational approach.

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I'm not sure of the methodology for determining good behavior nor do I like the idea of messing with ratings.... but I like the term "dastardly conduct" and the concept itself.

Suppose we could tweak this delightful idea?

What if there were a icon we could click when we feel our opponent is honorable or even just civil - someone we wouldn't mind playing again- with no down-voting, which could get messy.

Each player would earn a % based upon nice-clicks per total games. However diaphanous such a scale might be, it would still offer a potential opponent something to expect (from his opponent's %) and something to shoot for (raising one's own %).  The "nice-click %" could also be a seek parameter so you would only be paired against people with a somewhat demonstrated track-record for civility. 

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yes a mutual karmo-meter although I still feel the most dastardly should be publicly mocked, outed, shamed on a shaming forum for all and sundry to gaze in wonderment upon the sordid details of their iniquity but then again they might thrive on the attention and vie with each other to see who could be the most villainous.

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batgirl wrote:

I'm not sure of the methodology for determining good behavior nor do I like the idea of messing with ratings.... but I like the term "dastardly conduct" and the concept itself.

Suppose we could tweak this delightful idea?

What if there were a icon we could click when we feel our opponent is honorable or even just civil - someone we wouldn't mind playing again- with no down-voting, which could get messy.

Each player would earn a % based upon nice-clicks per total games. However diaphanous such a scale might be, it would still offer a potential opponent something to expect (from his opponent's %) and something to shoot for (raising one's own %).  The "nice-click %" could also be a seek parameter so you would only be paired against people with a somewhat demonstrated track-record for civility. 

The karma/reputation voting system is used on lots of forums. and would definitely work as a seek parameter.  Many variations do not allow downvotes, but I feel the better systems are ones that allow downvotes, but only 1 downvote per upvote, making it a zero sum affair.  You have to give upvotes (sometimes multiple upvotes) before you can give downvotes.  Sometimes you have to have *received* upvotes to give downvotes, another worthy variation.  Otherwise the ratio of downvotes will be an order of magnitude higher than upvotes, because by default people complain far more than they praise.  A pernicious flaw in human nature.

Trolls will abuse it, of course, but it's actually not hard to identify rings of people upvoting/downvoting each other's sockpuppets or perceived enemies, and then banning them.  A low limit on the number of upvotes/downvotes allowed in a given timeframe helps solve this issue.

The attention seeking "villains" (ironically mentioned by one of their own) are handled on forums by reducing the thread/post visibility.  Downvoted posts end up being greyed out after X number or percent of downvotes, or even muted automatically without mod intervention.  One can only dream about this being applied to the forums here...

The idea of actually modifying ratings this way is exaggerated and inappropriate, of course, as the OP knew full well when he posted this trolling thread.  

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Well, accusations are too often invented or exaggerated while compliments are usually true. I'd rather use probable truth as a basis.

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Strangemover wrote:

Further to my previous post some time ago on Richard Milhous Dastardly (Dick Dastardly), it has since been brought to my attention that he shares his first two names with a certain Richard Milhous Nixon. I suspect this was not mere coincidence. Given that Wacky Races first aired in 1968 and Watergate occurred in 1972 this would seem to be a case of life immitating art (or cartoons at least).

No, it's art imitating life.  Nixon was a national figure long before Watergate.  He was elected vice president in 1952 and reelected in 1956.  He lost a very close presidential election in 1960.  He was elected president in 1968 and reelected in 1972.

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btickler wrote:

 

The attention seeking "villains" (ironically mentioned by one of their own). . . .

The idea of actually modifying ratings this way is exaggerated and inappropriate, of course, as the OP knew full well when he posted this trolling thread.  

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Actually i don't think i have ever sent anyone an abusive text, before, during or after a game. I have publicly scourged some windbags though who were fully deserving of it.

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robbie_1969 wrote:
macer75 wrote:
robbie_1969 wrote:
 

Its not a bad idea if its based on empirical evidence and peer reviewed.  

Really? There have never been any bad ideas that were based on empirical evidence and peer reviewed?

You have an alternative method?

The alternative method is for you to disable chat and block the player instead of expecting the site to set up a "dastardly behavior" peer review process to please one crank out of 20 million members.

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FBloggs wrote:
robbie_1969 wrote:
macer75 wrote:
robbie_1969 wrote:
 

Its not a bad idea if its based on empirical evidence and peer reviewed.  

Really? There have never been any bad ideas that were based on empirical evidence and peer reviewed?

You have an alternative method?

The alternative method is for you to disable chat and block the player instead of expecting the site to set up a "dastardly behavior" peer review process to please one crank out of 20 million members.

nope, this has already been addressed earlier in the thread.  It does not punish rude or inappropriate behavior.  I could block you though if you give me any more of your wash.

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